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Saturday, Jul 4, 2009
and Dennis Kucinich is right about why people don't vote. But I'm going to vote for the Democratic candidate (after voting my conscience in the primaries) and then I'm going to hold his/her feet to the fire about war and diplomacy, fair trade and corporate accountability, single payer health care (see Sicko), habeus corpus, civil rights - especially in the area of police powers, and rebuilding America's infrastructure. Among other things.
I've been a bitch toward my rather wonderful congresswoman if she doesn't get it right - rarely, and toward Nancy Pelosi for failing us so often that it feels like years she's been there rather than only since the midterms.
Hillary Clinton and her forked tongue. Did she mention her upcoming 20/20 special with Billy Graham, the Bushes, and her hubby? Those entrenched establishments types, they truly are "different" from one another, aren't they?
I wonder if Bill Clinton and George Bush, Sr. came up with the idea while at Bohemian Grove or some other secret elite pervert retreat? I mean, didn't you know that Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton are BFFs now that they don't have to pretend that they are on different teams? Bush and Clinton even go golfing together, in fact, that is probably where George and Bill talk about the good ol' days of smuggling drugs for the CIA.
All Hillary "Goldwater Girl" Clinton cares about is power. She will tell you whatever you want to hear as long as she gets the nod. Just don't expect her to give up any of these newfound executive powers, or for her to diminish the role of the (police) state in the lives of ordinary Americans or get rid of unnecessary Departments like DHS. Expect her to take what the foundations that the neocons have laid and build upon it. In fact, I imagine she will find a new way to sugarcoat her words so that the Establishment's warmongering are carried on the wings of a dove. More "spreading democracy abroad" and leaving out the "from the air with bombs" part, just like Bush.
1. kos and the kossacks are NOT progressives in MANY areas (to start with, they are 'okay' with CENSORSHIP, that is NOT a progressive value); but they ARE good citizens in terms of protecting our constitution (unfortunately, under assault by BOTH parties)...
they are NOT progressive on many issues, they ARE mainstreamers on MANY/most issues...
(in spite of various cavils, they buy into militarism and other old school memes...)
2. arvin hill, right fuckin' on, bro, good stuff...
3. about had it with nervous nellies who bemoan potential third parties, but concede yes, they *are* both hydra-heads of the korporate money party; however, they still want *their* slightly-more-moral hydra-head to win anyway...
if we don't start third (and fourth and fifth...) party movements, then the dem'rats and rethugs will have ZERO incentive to move away from their korporate masters...
if we don't start third (etc) party movements, then we won't EVER have them, will we, you stupid, shortsighted, bleating sheeple...
geezus h. kee-rist, people act as if dog almighty hisownself sent down the tablets with 'thou shalt be a rethug or a dem'rat, and shall worship no other party above these...' *snort*
(further, let US adopt an 'Instant Runoff Voting' system which will allay those fears; PLUS institute a system which values the dog damn VOTES, not the bullshit goal of instantaneous voting results for the benefit of mediawhores...
computer-based voting systems ARE NOT 'safe' systems, period...
PAPER BALLOTS, HAND COUNTED, LOCALLY REPORTED ! ! !)
4. if i hear one more moron slander nader for 'losing' coup 2000 to king george ii, i am going to track you down and shove punchcard chaff in your nose until you stop breathing (you've proven you are already braindead)...
A. people don't have a right to vote their conscience, but have to vote for who *YOU* approve of ? fuck you...
B. gorewhore and LIEBERMAN (for dog's sake!) fucked themselves up the ass so royally, they hardly needed the bush cabal to complete the act...
C. full spectrum vote fraud was the REAL winner of coup 2000, and ANYONE who does not realize this knows NOTHING about our elections and the slime who game them... you know NOTHING, asswipes, if you don't realize these efforts are what decided coup 2000 and coup 2004... (ignorant dickheads, get over to bradblog to learn the reality of voting in amerika...)
D. WHEN was the last time you misinformed scolds bitched out hagelin, harris, buchanan, etc voters, who ALSO had more votes than the *supposed* vote difference of about 500 votes in florida ? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU DID THAT, ASSHOLES ?
(oh yeah, that's right, NEVER ! there, you've just proven yourselves to be worldclass hypocrites, now shut the fuck up...)
(not to mention, why not bash the BUSH VOTERS for a vote that is morally indefensible in comparison to voting for nader ? why not, uh duh, 'cause that doesn't make 'any sense'... uh huh...)
5. tom70, good stuff, thanks...
6. CENSORSHIP is wrong, most saloonists are for CENSORSHIP, therefore most saloonists are WRONGheaded... think about *that* tasty little morsel, upright, uptight, up-yours saloonistas...
come the revolution, we will welcome a diversity of parties...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
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Last time it was progressives not taking a side that resulted in the Democrats choosing the wrong man. (Or do any of you still insist that Kerry was more "electable" than Dean?)
Respectfully, this may be a pointless argument, and I'll grant that it's highly unlikely that Gore would have done such a thing, but I still think it's more than a little possible. You're giving too much credit to the Bush presidency alone for making the case for war on Iraq. Toppling Saddam, remaking the Middle East, lashing out at someone (anyone) else in response to 9/11--these were priorities among Republicans regardless of Bush's presidency. It's reasonable to expect that all these same players in the vast right-wing conspiracy would have been pushing the same agenda but in different roles, and a (dishonest) case would have been made for invading Iraq with as much intelligence as they could cherrypick and distort. And, much as I admire him now, Gore was not reknowned for his political backbone.
More to the point, wouldn't it also have been amazing for anyone last November to believe that the new Democratic majority in Congress would give Bush full funding to continue the war without any commitment for withdrawal? And that it would give him everything he wanted on FISA "reform?" You say "To me the best thing about this Congress is it doesn't rubberstamp everything Bush wants to do," but I consider the Iraq war and the expansion of executive branch power without oversight to be the biggest issues we face today, and congressional Democrats have rubberstamped Bush on both of them. (And how about that Military Commissions Act?) They did just what a Republican Congress would have done. That's not "no news" coming from Congress; it's bad news.
Finally, you say "Even if this Congress can't impeach Bush or force him out of Iraq, at least they are keeping him from making thing even worse." Well, they CAN impeach Bush and force him out of Iraq, they just refuse to do it, and in fact they're actively allowing him to make things even worse.
The Wasilla soap opera just gets weirder as Palin complains critics are "picking apart a good point guard"
The media outlet's use of Bush euphemisms sparks a much-needed debate on journalistic standards.
And so are his Fox News pals, who lambasted Sen. Al Franken's "stolen election"
An inflexible right wing is allowing the Golden State to drown in debt. But it's not alone
Thanks for sharing, Governor. Now please take a cue from Norm Coleman, and go away
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