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What's the big deal? We read and enjoy Greco-Roman, Asian, Middle Eastern and Norse mythology; we admire and appreciate great and lesser works of literature, art and music based on these themes; we find fascinating and worthy of study Native American as well as African and other indigenous traditions and beliefs. Why should Judeo-Christian mythology be any different?
I don't have a problem with myths but this 'museum' is trying to pass this off as science, and that's my problem with it.
Stupid is as stupid does. Eventually whatever it is they wish for comes to be and everything stops functioning. America the Dumb will eventually wink itself out. Picture an ignorant near-theocratic reactionary bankrupt America 30 years in the future. A veritable backwater like Zimbabwe is today. Squalorous, dumb, inbred and violent. All the professional jobs are done by foreigners and Americans subsist on an economy of low wage service jobs and selling life insurance to one another.
How many T-Rex and Brontosaurus Rex can you fit on an arc?
"As we all know in dialectics (we do, don't we?) thesis and anti-thesis produce a new "synthesis." That is why Atheists don't mind being a pole, to move the folks in the middle perhaps a nudge over, and create a new American 'synthesis' of religion." -ELYDOG
Yes, thesis and antithesis produce synthesis, a third thing. But this paradigm does not reify either side of the dichotomy, or even the synthesized results. It's good to see yourself as part of a dialogue—would that more of us did—but too many on either "pole" of this particular dialogue refuse to talk to not only their opposite pole, but those of us doing the synthesizing.
I'm an agnostic who finds theism useful. I've been a militant atheist and an agnostic who found atheism useful. My personal investigation of reality, well grounded in science (biology, physics, psychology, neuroscience), as well as the history of science, has led me through this development into who I am today.
I know a PhD in biology who worked at Woods Hole for years (excellent bona fides if I ever heard of them), who is a Jesuit priest. Actually, I've known several scientifically degreed priests, as well as dozens of lay people who believe in evolution and also believe in God. They understand that God is a personal experience, and evolution is a scientifically demonstrated fact.
I know a few physicists who found in their work, as I did in my physics studies, serious reason to believe some kind of observing intelligence must exist, in order to provide a ground of being for the universe we live in. They were in the minority at the SSC, but there they were, working on science, looking for particles, and doing it all with a belief in God. Hmmm....
I think the synthesis has been around for at least a century, if not longer. I think the sudden increase in both militant atheism and fundamentalist Christianity is a backlash, because now that the information age is upon us, the new synthesis is "out there" and threatening to the false dichotomy of the old poles. Else why is it that neither militant atheist nor fundamentalist Christian will talk to the true agnostics looking to science to understand their world? We are reviled by both sides, yet we offer hope for sanity in dealing with these issues. Certainly we offer a better option than the creation science/IDers, or the few (but loudly speaking) elitist, insulting atheists.
I think most people are humbler than these two poles, and less able to tell another human "I'm right and you're wrong." We're doing our best. And for those on both sides who see themselves as part of the larger dialogue, please—be more open to seeing the synthesized results already around you.
My deepest wish is that humans stop seeing the knee-jerk viewing of thoughts in either-or terms, and realize that any two and perhaps many more options might be right, viable, or useful in different circumstances. Try stepping away from either-or beliefs and into your personal experience (the only thing you truly "know" is the present moment), and see what the world has to say.
People who force the world to fit their beliefs, instead of experiencing and learning from existence, believe not in God or science, but themselves.
...the fruit of knowledge. That must be why right wing religions and republicans want to end public education. Now that the right wing religions are united by the republican party and have become as one I wonder how long it will be before they are at each others throats regarding which religion is the best.
The pope may be in for something he is not able to take on when the evangelical fundies attack the catholic fundies.
The pope has the SCOTUS but I don't think that will work for him.
When all of these right wing religious haters attack each other the pope will have to defend himself against his pro-life friends.
I may be a catholic but I don't intend to become a part of the right wing hate machine. It's just not my thing, I wasn't raised that way.
Now the the evangelical fundies have caught up with the catholic fundies in rabid religious fundamentalism the pope will have to get Opus Dei and the other secret catholic organizations that us catholics in the center and those on the left are only now slowly finding out about, will have to come to the aid of the church that now hates us. Hello, O'Reilly, Russert, Hannity, Noonan, Schlafly, Chris Mathews, William Donoghue, Tom Monoghan, Sam Brownback, Rick Santorum, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito, Kennedy, Joe Scarborough are you listening. You all have sown hate and intolerance and that is what you will reap.
You people are not my idea of what catholicism once was, or maybe it never was.
Are Hitler and the Nazis going to come back for you or for the southerners. You both like/liked them and their kind of thinking. And keep your war somewhere in the south, Kentucky would be a good place for your righteous struggle against each other. Right where that screwy museum is located.
And yes I'm very angry at what you two stupid religions have done to wreck America and our now shredded Constitution. And may you all end up in GITMO.