Letters to the Editor
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Meanwhile in next door Congo
The deathcount is 4 million and climbing. We will never do a damn thing about Darfur. Never. Never ever. BTW check your facts and you'll find that there are 4000-5000 uniformed Chinese army troops in Sudan protecting Chinese energy interests there. If you think the UN or the US is going to step up and interfere with that you have been smoking camel dung.
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But..but..but
we must do something about it...after all it is a worse human rights situation then Iraq represented and we went into Iraq to save the country from the genocidal dictator and establish a democracy...no wait, it was for WMDs....no wait, it was for ties to terrorists and being part of the WTC attack....no wait.....sadly Darfur punctuates the hypocrisy of Iraq and the moral drift of this administration and I agree we will not go in with any strength.....we have none left at this time even if the will was there.. I don't think Cheyney's energy task force paid much attention to this country.
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Darfur is under Jihad
The eternal elephant in the room that Salon will always strain to overlook. Cowards.
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Interesting
Their death and displacement rate is almost identical to the United States sucessful numbers rang up in Iraq...
...the MSM has been saying the US is the only remaining superpower...
well if death and destruction are the milestones of this discussion
It is evident that there is dangerous competition to U.S. superiorority - located in a small NAZI-like country
...and Bush is pissed - cause their beating his numbers.
Figures...what a hotheaded cowboy...
nice crotch though.
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SR you ruined a perfectly good idea...
I had a great idea for ending the problems in Darfur, then you went and ruined it with your comment about the Chinese.
I agree. We're not about to get in a shooting war in a country where the Chinese army is stationed...
BUT. If we were willing to do the job right, I can think of one way. We let the Sudanese government know that if they don't do *exactly* as we tell them, we will find them, and kill them.
Thugs respect a threat of violence that can be carried out. Assassination teams could be put in-country, and we take them out.
But, then, apparently we don't have the ability to do that. Or, if not the ability, than we lack the balls.
Bush and Cheney never understood that if their fantasy in Iraq was wrong, they would have to take pages from the Ottoman Turks and the Romans.
If we were willing to use the same tactics on Sudan that the Romans routinely used on subject peoples, the leaders in that country would do anything we wanted them to.
But, we're not willing. And with the Chinese involved? Forget it. The Sudanese gov't will kill or drive out every last person from Darfur before we do squat.
Any words to the contrary are just an exercise in ass-protection.
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So...
Bush gets pummeled for not working with Saddam and actively working to help the Iraqi people, yet he's expected to save Darfur?
WTF?
I think we should because I think going into Iraq was the right thing, but how can anybody against Iraq argue that we should be in Darfur?
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Darfur..?
Anyone been keeping count of crises in Africa over the years..? Why is this our concern..? Let them starve, arm both sides and let them kill one another, steal their resources, whatever the SOP is. It's not as if there isn't an established precedent. If we buy rubber bracelets, will that help..?
Not to sound burned-out and cynical... but I'm burned-out and cynical.
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Someone please list the acceptable amount of American lives that can be lost
In order to fix what's happening in Darfur.
Anyone???
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Don't worry Joe
The folks here are totally in favor of Bush saving lives in Darfur. Unless, of course, he actually decides to do it. Then they'll be dead against it.
The best way to interpret Salon's position is see whatever Bush does, and do a 180 turn.
I wonder what they'll say if Bush ever has the gall to suggest the sky is blue. (They'd probably call him a unitarian metereologist, who isn't considering the fact that it is night on the other side of the globe, therefore the sky is black while it is blue, and what a dunce he must be for not saying this in the first place)
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the US did not do it
Now according to liberals the US should be preventing genocide around the world. If the US had done so, no doubt liberals would be saying that was wrong. at the very least, they would be saying things like, we didn't stop the genocide in the right way, so we have inflamed x,y, and z and the street is angry at us or something equally ridiculous. The only point is to put down the US and Bush. It has nothing to do with regard for the blacks in Africa. One way I can tell is that these articles never mention that the killers are muslim. How to continue to portray muslims as injured innocents and yet complain about Darfur in a way that makes it sound like Bush did it. That's the liberal idea.
How about an appeal to muslims? We are told that because of the palestinians, all muslims, including those in africa and china, are justified in hating jews. So how about some united muslim action on the Sudan. That will never fly with liberals. and what about africans themselves. they have no responsibility to help the Sudanese apparently. It's taboo to suggest that they are derelict in any way, so Bush has to be blamed for all.