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More than once I've shut up a chickenhawk with the old "I'll show you mine, if you'll show me yours"...DD214 trick. Gets them everytime. I find it curious that the people I know who are most in favor of keeping our troops in harms way, are more often than not the folks who have never known the sound of, nor the exhiliration of, being shot at and missed. Damn easy to be a flag-waving patriot when it's some other mother's son over there doing the dying for you.I'm a card-carryiing, gun-toting liberal, and will be till the day I die! Robert David Clark