and your information carries (or doesn't, in this case) the equal credibility. Anyone making these charges which, he claims, are so easily substantiated should have the courage to use his name. Otherwise, it's cowardly hearsay. Remember, Allen has other people who knew him back then who say they never saw anything close to this behavior--AND THEY'RE WILLING TO USE THEIR REAL NAMES. That says a lot.

I went to Palos Verdes High School with George Allen. Ask him about the JJR (the Jesse James Revival) his un-official club where he claimed they beat up N's on Saturday nights. He kept a Dodger bat in his car with words "Nigger Knocker" written on it.For Homecoming 1967 he was saying in football practice the day before, N's going to paint the school tonight, I just know it. Sure enough, next day school painted with slurs aimed against whites (guess the ethnicity of the school we played, they won handily by the way!). He was originally expelled but reduced to suspension with agreement to pay to paint over the school. I've heard him speak N word many times in High School. Shelton is right this guy doesn't deserve to hold elected office. Ask the 1500 or so students, faculty, parents who were in Palos Verdes in 1969. I've made this post many places and waiting for media to contact me. I can verify this story with hundreds of people including his football coach at the time. I saw Coach recently at the store and we talked about the Homecoming incident.

Clarification- the homecoming incident was 1969. At work, sorry for the mistype, but it is all true.

"Remember, Allen has other people who knew him back then who say they never saw anything close to this behavior--AND THEY'RE WILLING TO USE THEIR REAL NAMES. That says a lot.

-- Michael Hambry, Florida"

Yeah, it says that they weren't with him 24-7. It's very easy to maintain that you never saw somebody do something. If George Allen calls somebody a nigger, and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Oh, wait! Somebody DID hear it!

Shelton used his real name. And I believe him. The others are afraid of retaliation - which I would be too, as a guy with a noose hanging in his office and a reputation for bullying probably isn't somebody you want to piss off.

I hope you're sending your story to the editors in a private email (see left margin of this page) with your contact information. Since your post is anonymous.

It is unfortunately true that there are large region in this country, predominately southern but not exclusively so, that buy into the reich-wing racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and claustrophobic Bushit. Many of these place have populations of good people with big hearts and good intentions. We know where the road leads paved with those intentions. On the other hand, we have a hard core of bigots, knuckledraggers, mouthbreathers, inbreeders, sheephumpers, and lapsed Babbdists that are the base, and I do mean base in every sense, of the fascist bastards in power, including Macaca Allen. In this base, like corn kernels in a turd, we find Joe and Anon and all the rest of the Freakrepublik visitors to this and similar threads. Now, go back to dating your relatives and chasing quadrapeds, Anal Anon.

Here is what Allen said:

"The story and his comments and assertions in there are completely false," Allen said during an interview with AP reporters and editors. "I don't remember ever using that word and it is absolutely false that that was ever part of my vocabulary."

Is this an honest statement? It would seem an easy enough task for the fourth estate to find out whether he has lived up to his own standards he is proclaiming to have held always. I hope investigative journalists will complete their job and see whether Allen has lived up to the standards he is proclaiming for himself or whether Allen is simply lying.

There are a lot of doubts. From the article in Newsweek, url below (I urge you to read it), I quote:

"After all, the main reason he's self-destructing as a national political figure is concern over whether he's honest about his family and himself..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14973254/site/newsweek/

>>And by the way, "cracker" does not carry anything like the emotional/historical punch that the n-word does, so please give me a break with all this "ooh, YOU'RE a liberal racist, Tom Payne" crap. That's just silly.<<

Crackers, rednecks & hillbillies-- they sound like a country song, right?

They sound like poor whites, white trash, working class people; they sound like the common folk you'd read about in The Grapes of Wrath. How easy for the elitist to despise.

"America's elites have very little contact with this culture. As with African-Americans fifty years ago, they rest comfortably with the false notion that the "redneck world" does not comprise a social or political force out of the narrow and often invented social issues that are necessary to get its votes. The elites do not have to deal with people from this culture on a daily basis in their classrooms or in their neighborhoods or at work. They do not see them in their clubs or go to the same parties. They do not need their goodwill in order to advance professionally. But they ignore them at their peril. Because in this culture's heart beats the soul of working-class America."

Who wrote that? James Webb, in his book "Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America"-- the guy running against George Allen.

But you despise him because he is a cracker, right? How wonderful that you have found a class of "white niggers" to hate & feel good about it. Move over, George Allen-- the courageous "Anonymous" is here.

Hey, Tom Pain-in-the-ass, leave us mouth breathers out of your rant! Greens and Democrats need oxygen, too.

Big guys that like to intimidate and dominate by their size and maybe push people around a little but who howl and whine whenever they are criticized and cannot tolerate anyone else pushing back just have an O'Reilly complex, equivalent to a Napoleon complex but for big guys.

Many big men use their size to reassure others that they are not bullies and may seem protective of even self effacing. Big men, like Bill O'Reilly, and, apparently George Allen, are the opposite, dominant, judgemental, smug unless someone points out a flaw or questions them or even disagrees with them when they become aggressive, whiny, outraged, hurt.

We all know these guys from high school (not likely the service for most, but there too) and some work settings. Somehow it has been easier to tag the cocky short guys with Napolean but now we have a moniker for the big jerks.

I played HS football with George Allen at PV high in Los Angeles. I remember the graffiti incident well, but getting faught didn't seem to change him. He wore a lapel with a confederate flag for our yearbook picture along with one other student. California is not southern and wearing the confederate flag for a yearbook picture in 1970 Los Angeles was like flipping off black people. I remember him proudly waving little confederate flags during our football award ceremony. His dad was obviously embarrassed but just let the kid alone. From what I've read about his college years and association with white supremacist groups, he hasn't changed much.