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Monday, July 31, 2006 12:00 AM

The fallout from Qana

Human Rights Watch denounces Israel for war crimes, while a halt to airstrikes lasted only a few hours.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2006 01:34 PM

Qana

The question must be asked; why did the bombing victims remain in a building 8 hours after it was bombed?

Evidence is starting to come out that Hezballa set this up. According to a Lebonese Christian web site; "Hizbullah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof in Qana and brought disabled children inside, in a bid to provoke a response by the Israeli Air Force. In this way, they were planning to take advantage of the death of innocents and curtail the negotiation initiative".

Check out http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3284514,00.html#n

I have no way to verify the the truth of these postings, but before you condemn Israel you might want to check the facts. Common sense will tell you that no one would willingly stay inside a building that was about to collapse. Not even poor people or children.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 02:19 PM

Rockets..?

Can "Hezzbollah" not scare up an old Cessna and pack it with explosives and remote-pilot it to, say, the Wailing Wall..? I mean, what kind of rockets are we talking about, here..?

Oh, wait, wait, that is SO wrong... I had this backwards. "Hezzbollah" is supposed to lay down and DIE while the Master Race expands its territories again with endless US backing..? OK, now it makes sense to me. More arms to Israel! Depleted uranium bombs? Check! Willie Pete? Check, and plenty of it -- let them try and be anti-Semites once we burn off their limbs! Ha! That'll learn 'em!

DAMN! I'm so glad we're the good guys...

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 02:33 PM

reliable sources

http://www.ynetnews.com

Yeah, that's real reliable.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 05:58 PM

YouTube.com Shows Hezbollah firing missiles from civilian locations.

Youtube.com has several videos of Hezbollah firing from civilian locations and Qana - site of the tradgedy.

Check it out and decide for yourself...

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:33 PM

War and the USA

"It's a war. Civilians are gonna die on both sides. That's what happens in wars. Americans don't seem to understand that because our mainland has never experienced war. That's why 9/11 was such a shock to people."

Eric, the United States mainland is soaked in blood from the wars held here. From the very beginning, the Revolutionary War, the French and Indian War, the War of 1812, the bloodiest of bloodiest Civil War, the Mexican-American War...and what happened to the millions of Native Americans during this time? Did they all drop dead conveniently of illness? If so, why then are there so many Native Americans still existing in other American nations like Canada and Mexico - they also encountered Europeans. The Native Americans in the USA were wiped out in a genocidal war on the mainland like Little Big Horn, like the Trail of Tears. What about the war against African Americans by the KKK and the non-intervention of the federal governmen like Rosewood, like the lynchings and burnings all AFTER the civil war and slavery abolished? What about the war waged against workers who have been murdered, beaten, tortured, jailed and abused in the history of this country by the capitalists who demanded the workers bend to their inhuman demands - check out The Peoples History of the United States? In most of these cases the government sided against the victims in favor of the wealthy and powerful.

Why do we lead all civilized nations on Earth in homocide and imprisonment?

Smedley Butler exposed the fact that the American military (in which he served as an officer and a marine his entire life) were 'enforcers' for the corporate elite against the rest of the world for profit. His essay "War Is A Racket" is a classic. Back in his day (FDR was president) the Eastern Establishment who admired Hitler wanted him to participate in a Coup d'etat to become military dictator of the USA under their direction. Instead, he went to the press and exposed the plot. Congress investigated and the guilty were shielded (as usual).

The Vietnam War killed 50,000 Americans before it ended. Here in the states people died protesting it; were beaten and castigated and put in jail for standing up against it.

In South America, Carribean, Southeast Asia, we had no business waging the secret wars using our military (once again) at the behest of powerbrokers. That's where the USA stands; it is very hard for those of us here to point fingers when we are now causing long term genetic damage to Iraqi arabs by depleted uranium and destroying that country like armaggedon. Because we have no free press and because most people prefer the comfort of being 'told' what to think, there is no questioning of possible genocide in Iraq. What else would du be for?

So, just to conclude...our country is only 200 years old; we have had plenty of wars and blood shed here. We are embedded in violence, blood and guilt. Most of the shock experienced in the US at the time of 9/11 was denial of ultimate reality. And we can not be sure of what that is because it has been obscured to us.

Respectfully,

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 06:58 AM

Ahh the smell of Gordon Wagner in the morning

It's the smell, of, Zyklon-B. A little acrid, a little like almonds. With a just a whiff of eau de Mengele.

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 08:48 AM

There were no Hezbollah rockets fired from Qana. The IDF itself has said that there weren't.

About the deaths in Qana, from Haaretz, the Jerusalem paper:

"It now appears that the military had no information on rockets

launched from the site of the building, or the presence of Hezbollah

men at the time.

The Israel Defense Forces had said after the deadly air-strike that

many rockets had been launched from Qana. However, it changed its

version on Monday.

The site was included in an IAF plan to strike at several buildings in

proximity to a previous launching site. Similar strikes were carried

out in the past. However, there were no rocket launches from Qana on

the day of the strike."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/745185.html

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 09:52 AM

Qana and other crimes

It was revealed on ABC Australia tonight that the IDF had this invasion planned in February 2005 so I guess the blood is on Sharon's hands again, same as in Shatila and Sabra. Which by the way spawned the resistance group called Hezbollah.

They had decided to bomb the country back 20 years and they have certainly done that.

Then tonight Olmert said that the whole thing had been a great success because the entire population had been displaced, bombed and moved along.

With one million innocent people involved that is a massive war crime in anyone's language.

Enough already about Hezbollah hiding in the houses to shoot rockets - what a deranged lie that is. The house didn't collapse 8 hours later, that is a lie, everyone was dead in the basement for god's sake.

Disabled children, the elderly are dead. How dare you racists believe that arabs are subhuman - what is murdering or displacing 1 miilion people about?

Who on earth wins? Israel occupied Lebanon for years and off and on invaded and killed and smashed everything in their sights.

For the record - it is the IDF that is bombing US citizens still in South Lebanon and they have been branded by Olmert as Hezbollah and are to be destroyed.

Along with 170 Australians.

With friends like this we don't need an enemy.

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