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Friday, July 28, 2006 12:00 AM

The "hiding among civilians" myth

Israel claims it's justified in bombing civilians because Hezbollah mingles with them. In fact, the militant group doesn't trust its civilians and stays as far away from them as possible.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2006 08:53 AM

ISRAEL CREATED HEZBOALLAH DUE TO INNOCENT KILLED

THANKS TO ISRAEL'S INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF LEBANON- NEARLY 20,000 DEAD INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND 30,000 INNOCENT INNOCENT CIVILIANS. THIS PROMPTED THE FORMATION OF HEZBOALLAH, WHOSE MEMBERSHIP IS MADE UP OF VICTIMS OF ISRAEL'S MURDEROUS CRIMES- THEY HAVE LOST THEIR FAMILIES AND LIVELIHOODS AS WELL AS THEIR HOMES. NOW ISRAEL HAS KILLED AS MANY AS 800 INNOCENT CIVILAINS AND INJURED THOUSANDS! AND AS IN 1982 THE ISRAEL HAS DONE THIS WITH AMERICAN SUPPORT AND AMERICAN WEAPONS.

AND PEOPLE IN THE U.S WONDER WHY 9/11'S HAPPEN! IF YOU FOLLOW THE LOGIC IF THE U.S. PROVIDES THE AMMUNITION AND SUPPORT IT JUST GIVES THOSE AFFECTED REASON TO LASH OUT. HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN PICTURES OF INNOCENT LEBENESE CIVILAINS SUFFERING FROM THE RESULT OF A PHOSPHOROUS WEAPON? THE WORLD IS NOW FORCED TO FACE THE FACT THAT INNOCENT CIVILIANS ARE TARGETS AND THAT SHOULD SEND A WAKE UP CALL TO THE WORLD.

ISRAEL LACKS ANY ON THE GROUNDS INTELLIGENCE BUT INSTEAD OF SENDING IN GROUND TROOPS AS WELL AS AIR COVER IT JUST UNLEASHED A COWARDLY OFF THE CUFF BOMBARDMENT DESIGNED TO SOFTEN AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR IT'S FRIGHTENED SOLDIERS.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 09:00 AM

Kudos to Salon

You've officially been inducted into the screaming nutjob club. I always had a suspicion since Kamiya wrote those oddly disturbing pieces sympathetic to the 'Patriot' movement. Now it's clear.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 09:11 AM

Maybe...

this "jounalist" could do some real reporting on the inner workings of the war side of hiz so the UN could get them out I suspect he knows full well the details but wouldn't want to betray them to the Isralies and the Bush administration.

hiz started this and they could end right now by releasin the soldiers they killed to get.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:15 AM

Seems to have touched a raw nerve

Wow! The self-righteous and hateful letters abound here. I guess there's room for only one point of view in the universe of many of these posters. Anything that deviates from the party line has just got to be a pack of lies. And why are you people reading Salon in the first place? If you merely want your current worldview reinforced, go to Fox or CNN.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 05:34 PM

From the Herald Sun - Australia's Biggest Newspaper...

THIS is the picture that damns Hezbollah. It is one of several, smuggled from behind Lebanon's battle lines, showing that Hezbollah is waging war amid suburbia.

The images, obtained exclusively by the Sunday Herald Sun, show Hezbollah using high-density residential areas as launch pads for rockets and heavy-calibre weapons.

Dressed in civilian clothing so they can quickly disappear, the militants carrying automatic assault rifles and ride in on trucks mounted with cannon.

The photographs, from the Christian area of Wadi Chahrour in the east of Beirut, were taken by a visiting journalist and smuggled out by a friend.

They emerged as:

US President George Bush called for an international force to be sent to Lebanon.

ISRAEL called up another 30,000 reserve troops.

THE UN's humanitarian chief Jan Egeland called for a three-day truce to evacuate civilians and transport food and water into cut-off areas.

US SECRETARY of State Condoleezza Rice returned to the Middle East to push a UN resolution aimed at ending the 18-day war, and:

A PALESTINIAN militant group said it had kidnapped, killed and burned an Israeli settler in the West Bank.

The images include one of a group of men and youths preparing to fire an anti-aircraft gun metres from an apartment block with sheets hanging out on a balcony to dry.

Others show a militant with AK47 rifle guarding no-go zones after Israeli blitzes.

Another depicts the remnants of a Hezbollah Katyusha rocket in the middle of a residential block blown up in an Israeli air attack.

The Melbourne man who smuggled the shots out of Beirut and did not wish to be named said he was less than 400m from the block when it was obliterated.

"Hezbollah came in to launch their rockets, then within minutes the area was blasted by Israeli jets," he said.

"Until the Hezbollah fighters arrived, it had not been touched by the Israelis. Then it was totally devastated.

"It was carnage. Two innocent people died in that incident, but it was so lucky it was not more."

The release of the images comes as Hezbollah faces criticism for allegedly using innocent civilians as "human shields".

Mr Egeland blasted Hezbollah as "cowards" for operating among civilians.

"When I was in Lebanon, in the Hezbollah heartland, I said Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending in among women and children," he said.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 06:01 PM

YouTube.com has Video of Hezbollah Firing from Civilian Locations

Check out Youtube.com. You can see videos of Hezbollah firing from civilian locations and Qana. Decide for yourself.

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 07:28 PM

Kill Ratio--Lebanese to Israeli Civilians: 25:1

According to an AP article (8/1/06) entitled “Israel launches attack deep in Lebanon”:

“At least 532 Lebanese have been killed, including 461 civilians and 25 Lebanese soldiers and at least 46 Hezbollah guerrillas. The health minister says the toll could be as high as 750, including those still buried in rubble or missing. Fifty-four Israelis have died — 36 soldiers as well as 18 civilians killed in Hezbollah rocket attacks.”

So, perhaps CARDSHARK could help us do the math. 461 Lebanese civilians have been estimated to have died vs. 18 Israeli civilians. That’s a ratio, I believe, of Lebanese civilians killed to Israeli civilians killed of 25:1 (rounding in favor of CARDSHARK’s pro-Zionist biases).

Apparently, Israel’s use of smart bombs is “smart”: they kill alot more civilians that Hezbollah’s “indiscriminate” use of rockets.Oh yea, Hezbollah fighters "hide" among the civilians. What would the Zionists do if they weren't receiving billions in aide from America? Use so-called "terrorist" tactics (we know this because this is their history). So, if you have billions, you use smart bombs and jet planes. Otherwise, you resort to "terrorism." So, lets give Hezbollah billions so they can abandon terrorism!

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 07:03 AM

Interesting theory

Who ever suffers the highest number of dead automatically wins.

That's a weird way to motivate your army. I guess from now on we should tell people to throw away their lives for the good people of Salon. I hope you're not old enough to go to college because frankly, you sound retarded.

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 08:14 AM

What is Winning in Lebanon, the Middle East and the World for Muslims and the West? A Little Perspective from Tony Blair

Here is a very recent, thought provoking speech by Tony Blair on Lebanon, Palestine, Iran, Israel, the US, Europe - what it all means and what winning really is.

I think many Salon readers would agree with many points that Blair makes and what the real issues are.

http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page9948.asp

Maybe Salon would reprint an article like this...

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