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Friday, July 28, 2006 12:00 AM

The "hiding among civilians" myth

Israel claims it's justified in bombing civilians because Hezbollah mingles with them. In fact, the militant group doesn't trust its civilians and stays as far away from them as possible.

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:52 AM

U.N. Official Jan Egeland Contradicts Prothero

U.N. official scores Hezbollah

But a day after criticizing Israel for “disproportionate” strikes against civilians, U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland accused Hezbollah of “cowardly blending” among Lebanese civilians.

“Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children,” Egeland said. “I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don’t think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men.”

This coming from a UN Official. Let's see, the UN has people on the graound and even suffered an accidental bombing of a UN Post. Meanwhile Prothero was lead on a guided tour by Hezbollah...Which is likely more accurate?

Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:02 PM

yup, the conspiracy is that Israel has to "claim" Hezbollah is embedded in civilian areas

as a cover for their wanton killing of civilians... because they are such bloodthirsty, rapacious bastards with no regard for life and they've figured out how to "game" the system. ditto, those leaflets, more "cover" more game ... done for PR purposes only ... Because, you know, Israelis are like that ...

I'm not making it up ... check out the "No, It's My Land" thread in the Table Talk White House folder (top of the list) ... lots of "stuff you didn't know" ... about those dastardly Israelis ... etc. ad. nauseum.

url: http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?14@829.Q7leau7BQ0C.0@.596c5554/5590

Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:29 PM

The Truth is Out and can't be Hidden

The brave Arm Chair Generals in cyberspace seem to know more than on the ground reporters like Mitch Prothero who report what they see. Hezboallah was formed as a response to Israel's foolish and wasteful invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and ended up taking an estimated 20,000 innocent Lebanese lives. There was no Hezboallah and it's birth is due to Israel's war and occupation of Lebanon. Don't buy the line that it is Iraninan run- it is largely run by Shiites that have lost their families, friends, and property due to Israel's butchery. Unfortunately reporters are stuck in 1983 where PLO did hide behind innocent civilians and used them as shields. The PLO did not care about the shiite families that sustained the brunt of Israel's offense. But Hezboallah learned alot from nearly two decades of war and that is not to reveal your positions to civilians who can tip off Israel. THAT IS WHY ISRAEL IS SHOOTING FROM THE HIP-IT LACKS ANY ON THE GROUND INTELLIGENCE REGARDING ACTUAL TARGETS. dah!

ANYHOW- WHY WOULD SHIITE HEZBOALLAH FIGHTERS "HIDE AMONG CIVILIANS" WHEN THE CIVILIANS ARE INNOCENT CIVILAINS- FRIENDS, SYMPATHETIC SUPPORTERS, AND FAMILIY MEMBERS OF THIERS? But of course the U.S. media know that the average American knows nothing about history or can even locate Lebanon on a map. So actually people are stupid enough to believe that the Shiite fighters are using their own brethren as targets on purpose. Come on people think logically.

Sunday, July 30, 2006 01:00 PM

re: Hezboallah was formed as a response to Israel's foolish and wasteful invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and ended up taking an estimated 20,000 innocent Lebanese lives.

what you say is true - but then you add this bit about "innocent." WHo in the middle east is innocent? Is it the Jewish son of settlers kidnapped and murdered when he was 18 and out on a hike? Is it the Palestinian family who knows about a tunnel used for smuggling arms? was it the Lebanese government, pre-1982, who allowed the PLO to set up shop and launch raids from Lebanon's borders? Who is innocent in that mess? The Jews are "butchers" but the PLO? rightful resistence - even if they have to destroy a country (Lebanon) to do it (100,000 Lebanese dead thanks to the PLO): why do you think the Jordanians slughterd 20,000 Palestinians (arabs killing Arabs? Can't be - where's Rachel Corrie when you need her?) - they saw what could be their own Lebanon and took matters in hand - sent Arafat to Lebanon. It's amazing how quick most are to condemn the Jews - butchers, nazis, monsters, ethnic cleansers, kikes, yids, jew boys - it's all the same - because no matter how many Jews the Arabs kill, one "resistence" fighter's death is far too many!

Sunday, July 30, 2006 01:13 PM

re: "yup, the conspiracy"

Aww poor "ckickadee" all mouth and no guts. Why don't you go there and express your opinion rether than cowardly trying to misconsture others opinions. LOL.

Sunday, July 30, 2006 01:27 PM

Moral equivalence?

One hears that there is no moral equivalence between the “accidental” killing of civilians by the Israeli forces, and the intentional killing of civilians by Hezbollah. This is true. Israeli kills a staggeringly larger number! According to a 7/30/06 BBC news online article (news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5229058.stm) 750 Lebonese (mostly civilians) have been killed, while 51 Israelis (mostly non-civilians) have been killed. So, the ratio of Lebonese killed to Israelis killed is 17:1! Perhaps the United States should arm Hezbollah as well as they have armed Israel, so Hezbollah could stop using “terrorist” tactics and kill more “humanely” like the Israeli army.--Ted Schoneberger

Sunday, July 30, 2006 01:39 PM

Smallpkgs

You may not get an editor's star for that excellent letter, but you do get my heart-felt thanks for writing it.

Sunday, July 30, 2006 02:51 PM

'Hiding Among Civilians' is No Myth

Hiding among civilians is an intentional act, and no myth. It can be very effective for terrorists. Here is an AP article on the subject

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060730/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_hezbollah_s_edge&printer=1;_ylt=Ar3uKGwpfTq1Ltto9op0EAEUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-

Sunday, July 30, 2006 02:57 PM

Cardshark

Haven't you noticed? The Liberal progressive anti Israel left has the same tolerance for Jews as the Palestinians; that is, zero. If they outnumber the pro Israeli positions 100:1 they scream that the 1 is an occupying invasion and clearly a dark plot by mysterious forces. After all 9% of the entire West Bank is Jewish and if the Palestinians ever accepted a multicultural reality much like the very diversity in the west that makes it possible for wingnuts, racists and retards to spout whatever hate speech they like then there would be no conflict in the first place. No, Salon is emblematic of the Arab pyche itself - it must have 100% dominion or it goes to war. And is rather paranoid, I might add.

Sunday, July 30, 2006 03:19 PM

Hezbollah DEFINITELY hides with the civilians

This is the most rediculous claim I have ever heard that Hezbollah stays away from the general population. Show us your proof that Hezbollah is not in the area of civilians, but of course you can't because even the UN says that Hezbollah not only lives with the general population but that Hezbollah regularly shoots off its missiles from right next to the UN observation towers and were in fact reported to be next to the tower that Israel bombed by one of the observers inside! This has ALWAYS been the way these cowardly terrorists operate, they don't fight soldiers, they attack innocent people and have for many years. Where are the leaflets dropped on the Israeli towns before rockets are launched at them?? There is film proving that Israel does this and sents out other forms of comunication to warn civilians that an attack is coming, the terrorists DO NOT do this. How can anyone defend terrorists and countries that raise their children for the sole purpose of being bombs?? How can anyone sympathize with people so sick and twisted they send their children in to be bombs, while they stay home and then pretend to mourn for them?? Why don't they fight for a better life for their children instead of expecting their children to fight for them? These are sick and twisted people full of hate, they do NOT want peace, they got everything they wanted with Arafat and Clinton and Barak, but they threw it back because they do not want peace, they are all Nazis who only want Israel and all jews dead. And if you are stupid enough to think that is when they will stop, think again, look what happened in Somalia when 2 people had the nerve to watch the World Cup and were shot by an Islamic soldier, one was killed, and they were just watching the evil Western TV. Or how about the man in Afghanistan who was on trial and was going to be executed just because he switched from Islam to Christianity. The list goes on and on, the next target would be us and all of our sinful ways, (accoridng to them) and they will not stop until they have their fanatical Islam spread all over the world. Hezbollah operates the way the Mafia did with Gotti, they go in and do stuff in the community to keep the people under their thumb and in debt to them, they then become sympathetic to the terrorists because they have been bought by Hezbollah. Wake up all you IDIOT liberal losers, get the facts and the truth and quit falling for the lies written by and spread by Michael Moore, George Soros, Babsy Streisand, (the terrorists would get you first Babs because you are a big mouthed, rich, trashy, JEWISH, WOMAN, in other words everything they hate!!), Howard Dean, Al Gore (who is now copletely insane, thank God that crazy man LOST the election!), and so many others that want to lie to America just so they can get back into power. Every one of you who votes has a responsibility to get educated on the FACTS, look at other sources than this website and other liberal lie spreading propoganda merchants or you will be condemning our country and the world to the chaos and horror of living under the thumb of these fanantics.

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