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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
...but unfortunately, the MSM doesn' want to touch it. Yet. Of course, they don't want to admit their biased coverage of the past two presidential campaigns, either, and any discussion, or investigation, of the 2004 election might naturally bring up that issue so that they could no longer ignore or deny the shortcomings in their reporting.
As for Salon's coverage, Manjoo made up his mind a long time ago, but still there are a number of prominent people, including even a few in the media, and in Congress, who are not convinced as he is that the anomalies were all just a wash. Perhaps Farhad is merely tring to rationalize a third-party (or even a GOP) vote?
And so... I quit looking to Salon for objective reporting on this issue some time ago.
The mere fact of not having enough voting machines in Democratic precincts, yet no waiting lines in Republican ones, should by itself be very telling.
And who can forget that Diebold's chief-- in Ohio, no less!-- promised to deliver the election to Bush?
In this case, a conspiracy would not have had to involve very many people, just a mere handful.
We don't need to hear from yet another right wing hack, do we? The idiots have so many voices and outlets for their ignorance. I (in my ignorance) thought Salon should be a refuge from them. Masquerading garbage like this as some kind of "balance" in reporting is contemptible. It is a shame that liberals can't wake up to some of the really awful truths about the extent to which the neo-cons will go to further the agenda of the corporatist/fascist/capitalist infrastructure. No one with an ounce of common sense could possibly argue that the hundreds of billions in record profits and war profiteering, the extinction of a viable middle class, and the ever expanding powers of the "unitary executive" wouldn't be worth stealing an election for. This kind of regressive bullshit is the real danger to freedom and the democratic process.
Screw Salon and Screw Farhad Manjoo.
Somewhere Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly are smiling. Well done, Farhad. Good doggie.
Seriously -- don't you have anything better to do with your life than spend it providing character references for Bush and the liars, incompetents and crooks who comprise the contemporary Republican party? If you want to devote your life to the service of criminals, please go join a prison ministry and give the rest of us a break.
I'm so irritated that Farhad Manjoo is still writing for Salon. Every time I see his byline it makes me want to skip right to the end of the story and write something like this.
For some reason, I read this story anyway. I'm sorry I wasted my time.
What is the point of this watery argument? Was it a fraud or wasn't it? It seem quite obvious to me, and should to any other rational observer, that if we have to ask that question, then there is something seriously wrong with so-called democracy.
Manjoo's offering is an embarrassment, and Salon should go sit in the corner and think about what it's done.
Manjoo's example of how a 56 percent average response in a Bush district could still mean Kerry voters were over-represented does not make sense to me. If a district yielded a vote of 80 percent or more for Bush, and 53 percent of Bush voters were willing to respond to the survey, it would take a lot more than 59 percent of Kerry voters to yield an average of 56 percent, since Kerry voters are such a small minority. For example, if the split were 80-20 for Bush, then almost 70 percent of Kerry voters in the district would have to participate to give the 56 percent. What am I missing here?
Dear Sirs:
I'm ashamed to read, in Salon, Mr. Manjoo's smug rebuttal to Robert Kennedy's articulate and
timely Rolling Stones piece about vote theft. This is a subject that has had virtually no MSM coverage, and yet Mr. Manjoo writes as if it is not just common knowledge but commonly and decisively pre-debunked.
Anyone who followed Senator Conyers brave investigation into the sinkhole that was Ohio voting in 2004 will expect a better analysis of Mr. Kennedy's many, many unanswered assertions. Just the illegal and squirrelly manipulation of the Ohio recount alone is enough to raise the hairs on the back of your head and get you interested all over again in the biggest little "debunked" story of our era.
I know when writing smells slick and perfunctory, as Mr. Manjoo's does here, and when there's a story that isn't getting its fair due, by far.
And it's not just in Ohio: I've seen tallies of the 2004 Florida vote counts that have some profoundly weird vote-flipping going on with optical scan machines, every last one of them to the benefit of our fair and balanced leadership.
I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Kennedy's opinion that, "nothing less is at stake here than the entire idea of a government by the people." I wonder if Salon might find it in its heart to be a little more attentive to the possibility that this too, not just Mr. Manjoo's patience, is in danger.
DWG
...by Swiftboat liars, "Dubya served" liars, "Saddam attacked us" liars, and far too many voters who didn't have enough brain cells to evaluate the evidence. I've talked to some of them; they thought a man with two Purple Hearts and other medals was a riskier proposition than a man who didn't even show up. They voted for a man whose only success in "real" life - after many failures - was in trading on his father's name to lobby for a sports arena.
I agree with Manjoo that the case for an erroneous election result in Ohio is far from ironclad. I also agree with other readers who have said, essentially, that Republicans certainly TRIED to steal the election.
We need to fully investigate and address attempted fraud wherever it occurred. Success or failure in turning an election is irrelevant. If they failed, that only reaffirms that the right-wingers are both dishonest AND incompetent.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
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