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Saturday, June 3, 2006 12:00 AM

Was the 2004 election stolen? No.

In Rolling Stone, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. argues that new evidence proves that Bush stole the election. But the evidence he cites isn't new and his argument is filled with distortions and blatant omissions.

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  • Saturday, June 3, 2006 11:03 AM

    the issues or not

    okay: one, i agree that Manjoo is so not the election expert and is such an obvious sort of San Francisco Dotcom Libertarian that it sometimes makes my brain hurt when i think how i pay for salon and have my time spit on by him writing virtually the same article over and over. and, as demonstrated by Lori showing that Manjoo partially quoted the Ohio statue on voters not voting in two previous fed elections, why should i take seriously articles written with such obvious distain and sloth?

    and for you guys who keep saying that 2004 wasn't stolen or that it doesn't matter if it was BECAUSE we should have just killed at the polls and our guys keep running bad campaigns... both things are important and have minimal to do with each other. For you to say that it didn't happen but if it did it doesn't matter is quite convenient for you. Fuck the minorities. Fuck the people unlucky to live in places like Ohio or Florida. This is just a game and the only way to win is by super winning? Last time I checked EVERY vote was supposed to count. And it takes a majority of those votes to win... not a super majority. it takes 50.01% to win. Not 55% or 60%. Also, since the repothugs didn't win in 2000 and only got 52 or 53 in 2004 (i forget the exact number) you are basically saying that republicans diserve to win with less than democrats... you're arguing a rather juvenile line of reasoning: if i can't have it all look how i thought it would, fuck it all i'm going home.

    seriously? dumbest point in the world. either there were irregularities or there weren't, either republicans were involved with any irregularities they weren't, either these irregularities were effective or they weren't. But don't tell me that it doesn't matter one way or the other.

    And Farhad, I'm semi-convinced i knew at least three clones of you in high school. perhaps it's adorable to be this naive, and selective in one's use of "logic" but just because you say it again and again and again, doesn't mean that you got it right the first time. the thing about the debate team is that they were never proving there point with facts and logic--they were bullying with rhetoric by selectively quoting and citing. i thought journalists weren't supposed to be on a debate team arguing for an opinion designated to them ahead of time.

    your blog writing is better as it's shorter.

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