A man who places a camera on a strap or other device beneath a woman's skirt to get a picture of her vaginal area has NOT comitted a crime.

No red herring raised negates this opinion of his.

that women are at risk AT ALL on this planet???

One word on women being disappeared and a government doing little about it:

Juarez

To remind you, since you seem incapable of reasoned discussion, Mexico is largely lawless and has been for most of its history. There is a big drug war that is spilling over into the United States.

You feminists seem to largely support the idea that all Mexicans ought to be able to mosey on over to the US of A at will, so you perpetrate this lawlessness with your support of certain policies.

If you want all women completely safe all the time, good luck with that. Men and women share this planet. Want to be treated like a 7 year old? Then insist that all women are kept safe and all men are left to fend for themselves. Sure sounds like that vaunted feminist concept of equality I am so used to hearing about.

I am sure you consider Mexican men to be of much less value, since many more men disappear every year due to the drug war over there, while many of THESE MEN TRY DESPERATELY TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR WOMEN by engaging in risky and ultimately futile activities tied to the drug cartels.

but hey, none of this matters, because someone somewhere who happens to be female is being treated with less than kid gloves.

You mean murdered?

again, sorry but you equate what this asshole did to you to the activity described in this article, which is unsupported pablum.

I am sorry some guy ran past and grabbed your boob.

What is the solution? Surgical insertion of mind control apparatus in all humans, male and female, and constant monitoring for any perceived sleight, followed by electrical shocks to the system?

I have NEVER hit a woman, but I have been hit by TWO women in my life.

shocking huh? I could hold a grudge forever. would that please you?

A woman is wearing a skirt that falls below her knees. A man has devised a way to take a photograph below her skirt and does so.

Has he or has he not done something WRONG?

Yes or no?

"treated with less than kid gloves"

You mean murdered?

How many women are murdered annually on this planet?

How many MEN are murdered annually on this planet?

case closed.

A woman is wearing a skirt that falls below her knees. A man has devised a way to take a photograph below her skirt and does so.

Has he or has he not done something WRONG?

Yes or no?

It is an etiquette transgression, nothing more.

Just like the woman squeezing my arm is a violation of my body.

Right or wrong?

Yes or no?

Right or wrong?

Yes or no?

This man of which you speak

Is not by me known

I would not even have such a grade A asshole

In the precincts of my own home...

rape: very wrong

murder: very wrong

Definition of 'rape' needs to be cleared up since feminists have convinced women that anytime a woman is less than happy with a man she can and should accuse him of rape, which is just wrong in the other direction.

Also, feminists have IRONICALLY fueled a culture of distrust that causes people to not believe when women accuse men of rape. A problem fed by the many cases of fraudulent rape allegations women have tried to pass off in the court system that have been demonstrably proven to be false.

What is that old joke? Man asks a woman to sleep with him for a million bucks and she says yes. Man then asks how about 10 bucks then. She is agast and exclaims "what kind of a woman do you think I am?"

To which he replies, we already established that - we are now just dickering over the price.

Upshotting panties, groping on the street, peeping through windows, rape, all come out of the same place. What differs is the degree, the price.

There were no cell phones with cameras when I was assaulted (for that is what it was, right?) A man that would run in, grab, then run off is the same sort of coward that would shove a camera up my skirt.

As a man, please explain why a man would do this to some random woman on the street? What is the purpose? Obviously, the upskirter and the groper do not see that random woman as a human worthy of respect.

Is that it?

And craft crude flint tools

And stone knives...

I suspect that if Brightstar were honest, he would consider that man who twisted your breast as having committed an etiquette transgression. I suspect he would feel that man should have to pay no actual penalty.

He knows full well that if society imposes no penalty, the behavior can continue and even increase.

Explain it to me

How I am responsible for explaining

This male work of walking human misery?

Am I your pervert's keeper?

Must I explain the stupidity of do-do birds

And the doings of perverted bees

Know you nothing yourself

Of the facts of all these things?

Rape - Wrong

Murder - Wrong

Upskirt - based on my previously stated caveats (i.e. plain view), if one must go to great lengths and contortions, wrong. If its just "out there" in plain sight, fair game for anybody who cares.

Assault - Wrong (includes grabbing boobies) and getting kicked in the balls for no reason.

And its just as wrong if AKA SMITH does it as it is if anybody else does it.

But you STILL have the option of thwarting upskirting, don't wear skirts. Not my issue or concern WHY you don't wear skirts. I don't cover myself with honey and run naked through the woods. I don't like the idea of getting eaten by a bear. Do I care if the bear knows its right or wrong? Not particularly, I don't want to get eaten either way. Lesson? Don't smear myself with honey and run naked through the woods.

The APPLICATION of the lesson has very little to do with the INTENT of the predator.

_I'm_ not telling you not to wear skirts. Wear 'em or don't, I don't care. I'm just suggesting that if the situation is reversed, that would be the common-sense suggestion coming from you.