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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:00 AM

Porn in a flash

A troubling surge in creepy "upskirt" photography has lawmakers in a twist -- and the body parts of women posted all over the Internet.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 02:51 PM

Oh no

I play fair. No accusations of rape, just stabbing if you take an upskirt photo. So, anyone who doesn't want to be stabbed, don't dive in between my legs and take a photo. Very simple.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:01 PM

Congratulations Brightstar

I've lived in Houston. I am happy for you. Live music, nightlife, fun people...we may never hear from you again. You'll be having too much fun. If we don't, have a nice life.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:03 PM

@ Brightstar

Congrats! Austin's a fun town.

Now, please throttle back before Salon gives you the boot again!

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:04 PM

@ paradisefound24

You've an odd moniker for someone clutching a knife. That doesn't sound like paradise to me.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:06 PM

A bum's rush ? ! ?

It is difficult to take the writer's stance on this subject seriously given the sensational language. The word "creepy" more aptly describes the victim mentality of the writer and some of her interviewees.

It is even more ludicrous considering the revealing trends in women's wear in recent years.

My opinion of this non-issue twaddle was colored by a bizarre incident that occurred at a park on the NJ shore several years ago.

While videotaping ospreys, pelicans and piping plovers, I panned over various groups of people who were sunbathing on the beach. Although they were in the shot, they were not the focal point; in fact they remained, at most, only half visible at the bottom of the frame.

Later that day, I was approached by the park police who began questioning me about what I was using the camcorder for. After being rudely interrogated, the issue became clear: a few women who had seen me panning the camera over their general direction had complained that I was a video voyeur.

Once I showed the police what had actually been shot they laughed and went away.

It should be noted here that each of the women who had complained were wearing very skimpy bikinis or thongs.

Spaces are called 'common' and 'public' for a reason. If one decides to wear next to nothing in these spaces, they should not object to - let alone prosecute - those who ogle, whether it is through corneas or camera lenses.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:12 PM

Great story

It should be noted here that each of the women who had complained were wearing very skimpy bikinis or thongs.

Just as I said, it is about women prevailing and controlling the dialog.

Men and their issues are just tangential to the overall business, which is to please women at all costs.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:13 PM

Having lived in Austin before

I've lived in Houston. I am happy for you. Live music, nightlife, fun people...we may never hear from you again. You'll be having too much fun. If we don't, have a nice life.

I know what I am missing all too well.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:39 PM

@ Oscar Meyer Wilde

Wow, talk about not understanding the article.

While your anecdote may be of some passing interest, it doesn't really have much to do with upskirting, which involves a camera angle that get a view not intended for public consumption.

While you might rightfully be offended for being mistaken for a pervert, that doesn't really address the issues of those parts of clothing that cover private parts.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 03:54 PM

@ paradisefound24 : I hope you are good with that knife.

I like guns. They are so immediate and, at close range, easy to use. You just point at the biggest part of the body and Ka-blooey!

Knives scare me. And the blood! So messy! Will you be aiming for an artery in the throat or do you plan to take out his eyes? I mean, if you are really going to use one, I hope you have given it some thought.

(My daughter has really long fingernails which curve. She just loves the eye-gouge.)

In fact, I am buying a larger food processor just because I don't like knives. I hate even chopping carrots. I doubt a food processor could be used as a weapon.

Now, as a connoisseur of detective fiction and true crime, I am trying to figure out how to kill someone with a food processor. I suppose they would would only be useful for eletrocution ...

However, let us suppose a would-be rapist came through the window and you knocked him out. There he would be so helpless -- and me with my food processor. He, he, he.

One thing I have noticed about women in true crime is that they can be quite imaginative murderers.

Okay, so I am a bit off topic.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 04:11 PM

Porn in a flash

Women should wear pants anyway. Men should wear kilts. More comfortable for all & I'm sure you won't have female pervs taking "upkilts" of men like men do of women. Problem solved.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 04:12 PM

Wear a burkah

That will fix everything.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 04:12 PM

. . .

It appears that most of the writers who have chimed in on this fluff piece need to take a deep breath of air that does not contain any of their own methane.

Yes, the more blatantly intrusive incidents of the pantyline paparazzi could be considered illegal than merely annoying.

After surveying some of the examples cited in the article, the question that springs to mind is what exactly are the so-called victims complaining about?

The shots are almost abstract in that they are body parts without a face or known identity.

Given the near-nude fashions of the day, and the exhibitionistic pull of our self-viewing Warholian society, what exactly are these people squawking about?

If decency and personal responsibility were more prevalent it is a safe bet that these incidents would be anomalous.

As other respondents have pointed out, the "surge" of this so-called scourge exists mostly in the mind of this article's author.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 04:16 PM

@ AKA Smith

Why do you revel in blinding, mutilation, and murder?

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 04:19 PM

@ bigguns

It's part of my job.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008 04:22 PM

@Anony

The distinction between looking at women and taking upskirt photos is very easy to get, Anony. Brightstar is just indulging in his desire to tell women how much power they wield over men, and how they get sanctimoniously offended if the poor males even dare raise their heads for a second to sneak a peak at the Olympic goddesses flying around. They'd get whipped, you know.

I think he does know this is not the point raised in the article, nor what women here are protesting against. But it's so much more fun to complain about women not liking it when men look at them... who cares if it's not true?

But seriously, the difference is easy to get. I, for one, am angry at upskirt photographers who make women feel less safe and therefore less likely to look pretty. They make my day sadder, they make the women's day sadder... they're just boys who won't grow up and still have to pull the girls' hair to get some feeling of power. I guess they do deserve the spoon-stabbing that paradisefound is promising them.

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