My only interest as a young man in womens panties was in getting them off. Hmmm. Maybe I'll start wearing a kilt in public...That ought to shut down a few sites. If only because the photographer went blind.

...men were victims of this instead of women.

The guys who wonder what all the fuss is about would have a different perspective if their crotch-shots were being photographed surreptitiously by homosexual men and posted on 'tinygaypenishots.com'...

Of course, a pissed off homophobe is more likely to punch your lights out.

Personally, I find the profusion of security surveillance cameras in general to be much more intrusive and threatening, but, hey, I'm a guy!

1. yep, disgusting, creepy, juvenile, and -ultimately- pretty pathetic... (talking about the taking and posting of upskirt/etc pix, NOT the NORMAL MALE DESIRE to 'check it out'...)

2. to sum up: when it is a guy you don't like 'checking you out', it is 'harrassment'/etc; when it is a guy you DO like 'checking you out', it is 'hot' flirtation...

this is both true AND valid...

however, HOW is a potential mate to KNOW, UNLESS/UNTIL they 'try' ? ? ? (i'm talking about 'normal' social relations, NOT taking creepy pix as a perverse 'icebreaker' to a relationship, which is the opposite of what is going on)

and chicks wonder why guys (*except* aggressive bad boyeez) are so 'shy' to approach them...

3. good points achilleselbow, unfortunately not commented upon by too many... we have a Hyper-sexualized society (in a sniggering, childish kind of way), we have early-onset puberty (especially for grrls, no doubt a result of the toxic punchbowl of estrogen-mimics we swim in, and due also to better nutrition, etc), we have softcore infotainment media for all 24/7/365, we have a fairly significant portion of young grrlz who dress to out-hoochie-mama each other, and we have virtually ZERO SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE OUTLETS for the raging hormones of all these snorting, pawing, desperate nekkid apes...

(we're *supposed* to be virgins until we marry, right ? ? ? what a joke that is: why not ditch the stupid and UNATTAINABLE expectation which causes more harm than good ? ? ? )

4. personally, i am simply dumbfounded by the so-called legal 'reasoning' which allows this type of intrusion and invasion of ultra-personal privacy be allowed to stand as some sort of 'normal' expectation when you are in 'public'...

? ? ? excuse me ? ? ? we have a normal expectation that someone using new technology (and WHAT are they going to do when creeps have nano-like camera botz who will crawl in your house, in your room, up your leg, or whatever the fuck they want to do ? ? ?) is somehow given immunity from being an intrusive, creepy fuck because they used technology to be unobtrusive about it ? ? ?

nope, i'm afraid this is yet another (in an infinite series) of The Law being an ass...

5. find it hard not to disagree with the advice offered by many: kick the bastard as hard as you can in the face, and/or take their picture and post it to shame (? do they have any shame if they are engaging in this kind of disgusting nonsense ?) them and make them publicly known...

art guerrilla

aka ann archy

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Ah, Mr Ed... The world is not really ready for your intelligence.

5. I don't really care.

Then OK, people can take photos of your crotch. But what about those who care? I don't want people taking photos of my crotch. Why should my right be violated? Besides, since you don't care, you won't mind if it's outlawed, now will you?

4. If they want to look and aren't harming me in the process, what the fuck do I care?

Look and photos are different things. Besides, the same problem as above: you don't care? Great. So don't report anyone who takes a photo of your balls. I don't like that, and if someone takes a photo of my balls (or, for that matter, of my face) without my consent I'd like to be able to do something against him/her.

Maybe you don't care about pizza. That's OK. But those who do care also have rights.

3. Who wants to look at my nuts anyway?

Nobody. You're right. I certainly wouldn't. I hope no woman ever does!... But seriously: if you don't have a reason to care, please stop bullying those who do. After all, you don't care... right?

2. I rarely venture out in public

Well, I do. And you know, there we go again... not only you have rights, I do to! Wow!

1. I wear pants.

Not all the time. Nobody does. Just a question of opportunity, sir!... But after all... you don't care. So why are you worried about people who care trying to protect themselves?

Let my question to you be: WHAT PRICE ARE YOU PERSONALLY GOING TO PAY IF PEOPLE WHO STEAL PHOTOS OF OTHERS FOR SEXUAL OR OTHER PURPOSES ARE PREVENTED FROM DOING THAT? After all, you don't care... right?

What if the upskirting isn't anonymous? Some sites do post picture of victims.

I always wonder to which mysterious countries you are referring when you talk about these women who are so understanding of male sexual desire. I always want to know exactly how the interaction is different, and what the trade off is. Honestly, if that's what makes you happy, really, have at it. You talk about it like, "and THEN you'll be sorry, when you lose all your men to the lovely and accommodating women of (insert mysterious country here)." I'm dying of curiosity.

I think Tracy Clork-Flory needed to do some better research. She wrote "Upskirting cases are hardly the only recent challenges to our notions of privacy. Recently, three girls featured without permission on the Web site and companion book "Hot Chicks With Douchebags" -- which consists of pictures featuring … yeah, you guessed it -- filed a lawsuit, claiming violation of privacy." Only problem is that website, hot chicks with douchebags, is not pictures of women using douches. It's pictures of hot chicks with "douchebags", as in guys that a jerks. All it took was a simple google search of hot chicks with douchebags, to find that out. The women that are suing were shown with pictures of them and their boyfriends. Next time do better research Tracy. We salon readers deserve better then this.