Here you go Tennsy-- here it is in a nutshell...

Do you know why _I_ don't have to worry about some perv taking upskirt shots of me and posting them on the Internet?

5. I don't really care.

4. If they want to look and aren't harming me in the process, what the fuck do I care?

3. Who wants to look at my nuts anyway?

2. I rarely venture out in public

-- and the NUMBER ONE answer (drumroll please!) --

1. I wear pants.

TA DA!

Women need to be aware when they are out regardless of what they are wearing. If any guy stops and stoops within 12 inches of my space I'm wondering if he's looking to snatch my purse, not snap my snatch.

Instead of walking in a daze at the mall or any place else, be aware of who is around you at all times. That only makes sense in this day and age anyway. And if some stranger has him and his cell phone invading your space, don't hesitate to give him as nasty look as you can and tell him to move away from you.

I've seen guys get right up on a woman's butt while in line to pay for gas inside the Speedway. A quick turn and nasty stare usually has them backing up and giving space.

And why don't men get men to stop acting like assholes?

If someone broke into your email and gossiped about the intimate secrets found therein, that would be similar to upskirting.

@Brightstar -- Stop it, seriously.

You're about to make sense and make the rest of us men look bad.

I actually make sense to someone?

As long as the person in the email is not named and remains anonymous, it is only random gossip chatter.

is she a victim or a perpetrator?

and why is everything defined by crime terms?

is this how women want to be treated by men in return, as a sort of endless state of war?

why can't women let anything roll off their back?

the more I think about this crap, the more it pisses me off.

and FEMINISM is 100% to blame for this constant state of seige against ALL men and their interest in women and sexuality.

really, I do not blame men for ignoring American women and seeking out more REASONABLE women from other countries. I mean these women would laugh in American women's FACES for how absurd you people have become. AND HOW PUSSIFIED you men have become too.

if men ran things, upskirt photography would be a sacrament and a basic right for men.

just like women gossiping to each other about the deepest, darkest secrets of the men they know is a basic right for women today.

You wouldn't feel violated. I would. You said it yourself, why the hell would someone want to take pictures of your balls. It doesn't affect you, so I guess you can't understand what it feels like to be used in that way.

Looking or noticing is not the same as leering or taking a picture. Why is this so difficult? You cannot justify allowing someone to stick a camera between my legs and take a picture of my private parts, but your solution is, instead of punishing the perp, punish the victim, make her change the way she behaves. Do you really want women to stop wearing skirts? Or do you just want women to get over wanting to control their bodies and how they are used?

Look, dude, no one's trying to "thwart" your sexual energy. All we ask is that you direct it toward another consenting adult. Why is that so hard for you guys to understand? Is it because you can't find another consenting adult? That's not our problem! Is it that "consent" turns you off? Consider therapy! Seriously, your comments illustrate the idea that this is more about power and "taking" something from someone without consent than it is about appreciating a woman's body.

Oh, and your argument about women talking about guys is pretty bogus...first of all, I have yet to see a women illustrate such a discussion about a man with a photograph of his junk taken without his consent. Secondly, guys also gossip about girls, quite frequently. Gossiping is different that taking a picture.

To conclude, most women consider it rude for you to make an effort to look up their skirt. It goes beyond rude, and probably should have some legal ramifications, to take a photo of a woman's private parts as a souvenir without consent and show it to all your buddies, put it out on the internet, etc-unless you have the subject's consent to do so.

As far as clothing goes-if you have to make an effort to see it by pretending to tie your shoes, using special camera angles, etc, than the woman probably didn't dress with the intention of showing it to you. If you don't have to make an effort to see it, obviously she is okay with you looking...but staring is creepy, period. And taking a picture is about 100 times creepier.

And why don't men get men to stop acting like assholes?

Some of us do, sometimes. With varying degrees of success. With a graduated degree of response, up to and including Warfare.

Sometimes sharp words will suffice. I can recall my stopping at least one incident of overt harrassment, on a public bus.

That said, I think it would be fairly pointless for me to attempt to reprimand an upskirting photographer after the fact. There's always an unknown amount of risk inherent in such confrontations, and I doubt that observing a simple instance of upskirting would merit my taking it, under most circumstance that I can imagine.

Unfortunately, to this day, the definition of "asshole" is somewhat subjective. And the claims of both genders in that regard have a track record of falling short of 100% accuracy.

As a more general strategy, there's a peerless method of lessening "male asshole" behavior- including acts that are much more injurious than snapping pictures of your undies. Stop going out with them, and get your friends to do likewise.

Too bad the method is so seldom employed in real-world conditions.