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Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:00 AM

Zombie feminists of the RNC

How did Sarah Palin become a symbol of women's empowerment? And how did I, a die-hard feminist, end up terrified at the idea of a woman in the White House?

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:38 PM

"how did I, a die-hard feminist, end up terrified at the idea of a woman in the White House?"

Because you aren't for the empowerment of ALL women. You are for the empowerment of LIBERAL women only.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:39 PM

Answers!

How did Sarah Palin become a symbol of women's empowerment?

She isn't.

And how did I, a die-hard feminist, end up terrified at the idea of a woman in the White House?

Ahh,.. the veil of ignorance is, in one swoop, removed. How refreshing this must be, to be cured of your hopeless myopia.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:42 PM

Hi Rebecca?

Why is she considered good looking? NO ONE I've talked to thinks so, but EVERY ONE who writes about her thinks so. Not that it would matter, but why does EVERY ONE WHO writes about it say she's attactive. Hell, not EVERY ONE agrees that Hallie Berry and Charlize Theron are attractive.

She seems kind of short, and a face kind of like Adolph Hitler. Bad glasses (vanity lenses), beady eyes, hair piled high. Pretty rough going. Not that it matters. I mean Biden is not so great too look at either. Any insights?

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:45 PM

Is this thread, since it's about Palin,

also going to swarm with first time posters, aka neocon operatives?

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:48 PM

ZOMBIES!

It is much worse than I thought!

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:50 PM

RW women are very strong.

they're leaders in their churches, in school organizations, in the Republican Party , and in business.

It's silly to suggest they're going to take us all home to iron. They don't wnat to do that either.

You really just disagree on abortion,and well, there's been pro-life feminists since forever; it was among the original feminist ideas that a woman should be able to keep her child or carry her pregnancy even if there wasn't a man around

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:51 PM

Palin is good looking?

to me she has the facial expression of the bland, near homely housewife in a porno amateur voyeur web site just before she removes her cloths and spread her legs to pose for her husband's digital camera. Most men would turn their heads to give her a second look if they walked past her on the street. Maybe the trailer park crowd would, but everything is relative.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:52 PM

YES

Rebecca has come to her senses! At last!

And is it just me or have I seen Salon today pivot away from the covert McMooseburger mania? Let's hope the rest of the MSM did it.

Perhaps the lipstick on a pig was McCain's Jump the Shark moment. But then, Republicans always hang themselves if you let them go on long enough...

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:56 PM

Here's your answer:

Because your brand of feminism professes to be all-inclusive and represenative of all women, but is, in reality, quite different from what it claims to be.

For your brand of feminism, Rebecca, is a pernicious form of identity politics which contains at its core an amazingly illiberal idea: that most rank-and-file women lack your brilliance and are subject to the Patriarchy's false consciousness. That is why they so badly need Big Sisterly guidance from enlightened thinkers such as yourself, for you see reality with uniquely clear eyes thanks to all those Women's Studies classes you took.

Yes, Rebecca, you cannot hide your disappointment and annoyance whenever "women" fail to see things the way that you see them, you being intellectually superior and all. An authoritarian attitude is implicit in the idea that most women are too dumb to realize how badly oppressed they are. Odd how they don't seem to listen, hmm?

But instead of asking yourself the tough questions: "Why are you and other like-minded "feminists" failing to reach most women? What are you doing wrong? Why don't most women call themselves feminists?" You spend an awful lot of time searching for scapegoats: It's the media. It's the patriarchy. They're too deeply brainwashed. Whatever.

By all means, keep repeating the same mistakes. I know you just can't help it.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:59 PM

Uh, No

Feminism is about the liberation of both con and lib women. If conservative women want to choose not to have an abortion, or stay at home, or any number of other things, they can.

But they don't have the right to tell other women they can only make those choices as well.

The latter is Barbie McMooseburger's brand of "feminism." Which is like calling a kapo a freedom fighter.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 06:59 PM

"how did I, a die-hard feminist, end up terrified at the idea of a woman in the White House?"

Because she is a lying political whore....

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 07:00 PM

Headline on Drudge just breaking now

DEVELOPING STORY: Sarah Palin’s therapist ready to go on the record. It looks like another s*#@ storm for the McCain / Palin ticket.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 07:04 PM

Maybe it's all the beauty queen mantra...stuff.

Anita Bryant, that Harris creature from Florida...

I'm reminded of that awful Congeniality movie

(thank you IMDB)...Candace Bergen's character.

Or the meritocracy of good looks or the whole mean-girl cheer-leader schtick.

Or...

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 07:05 PM

THIS SENTENCE MAKES NO SENSE, BUT CLUMSILY TRIPS OVER THE REAL ISSUE

It is infuriating that Clinton, her supporters and, yes, also those Obama supporters who voiced their displeasure at the sexist treatment Clinton sometimes received, and also female voters, and also females full stop, are being implicated in feminism's bastardization.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 07:06 PM

Oh, and...

The fact is, what McCain thinks is feminism is actually pretty funny: he doesn't know what it is. The way he's been approaching this is as if it's simply "femininity." I'm from the South and that's the view of it I mean--a genteel lady, delicate like a hothouse flower, and only an ungallant, ungentlemanly sort would ever say anything remotely critical of her.

And that's how the GOP base(largely Southern, or in a similar culture--and i was brought up in it, so please don't tell me I don't know Red America, 'cause I know more than I want to) understands it. They're framing this so that if Obama goes after her, he's UNGALLANT. (I won't even speculate what unconscious fears of a black man attacking a white woman they might also hope to stir up, but I can't imagine it didn't cross the GOP's minds)

And all this does is prove that the GOP simply doesn't live in the same century as you or I. Other female politicians seem to do just fine with questioning. But oh, not the precious pearl of Femininity that is Palin.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 07:06 PM

Palin and Sleep

I have been searching for a voice to echo my own un/sub/outer conscious about this person. You nailed it.

I really don't want to talk about Palin, because everyone else is. Primarily in glowing terms. But women, or very few, are not. HOW CAN THIS BE?

When GW Bush was re-elected in '04, I cried. That day was the first I have ever cried about an election outcome. I cried, not so much about the following, foreboding four years; I cried because "my fellow Americans" frightened me.

Both McCain and Obama embrace the "intelligence" of the "average American." Well, I think I'm one of those guys. I'm poor. Divorced and a single mom. A Feminist (yes, I say this with gusto). Never before in my 4 decades have I been so appalled at this decision. Again, I am frightened by not only "my fellows'" happy reaction to this pick--I am frightened by my own.

Pull your legs apart, there is anatomy. Palin and the rest of us chicks have that vagina. Pull McCain and Rove and ad nauseum apart, there is a machine grinding. Sarah Palin, who may become our President, has a machine between her legs. It begot her babies, but now it begets her votes. She wants "deference" from the big bad Media. Cross your legs, honey, and count the wolves you've killed. Cause, if the Media does its job, it's Drill you, Baby, Drill you.

I can't sleep well anymore with the next possible four years ahead. A "pro-life" woman or man would never deny science given that that children, born or not, will face a possibly horrific future. I don't use "hate" often. But, yeah, I hate this woman. As a woman, a veteran American used and used to white male politicians, I wanna meet SP in a fighting ring without lipstick. I wanna say: get out of the ring. I don't kill for sport or politics. Get outta the ring, and then I'll treat you with "deference." Otherwise, fight without the teleprompter, and get ready for the teeth. Now, truly, it's up to our "Human Resources" department--by proxy, the Media. If they don't have the teeth to take her on per her demands, then women (and our country) lose.

I'm counting the sheep while I try to sleep. Hope the remaining wolves will scatter them, so that they (we) can think.

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