Letters to the Editor
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had to check the headline twice
thought it said 'saliva', not 'salvia'... ;-)
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Thanks for the Links
Highly entertaining article. Loved the psychedelic art links. Hope to meet the Salvia Lady myself some day before the state outlaws her (or possibly after).
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"Jew-froded" ..hmmm ......i loved the article and the writing until i got to that..then i stopped short...and forgot everything else you said...
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How Curious...
Because I've smoked a 25x extract, several times, and never had the hallucinations described like this. As a matter of fact, it seemed to me to be a waste of money and time. Interesting intense energy that comes off of the shoulders but...that's it. I guess I'll have to try chewing it.
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Brilliant!
As a longtime salvia voyager, I have been pretty dismayed to see all the hype about the latest drug menace. I agree 100% with your assessment of the drug; it's not for the timid, but once you know your way around it, it's pretty harmless. And hell, even if you don't know your way around it and do it in the most reckless manner possible, I'd still say it's pretty harmless to everyone but yourself.
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So .... who is she? And he?
Are these spirits real? Are they images stored somewhere in the brain that the chemicals trip every single time? Kind of weird, don't you think? That she 'exists' for different people in the same form? Suggests she might be ... real in some way? Or is this like alien hallucations, and the salvia trips some kind of ancient archetype in the brain? What do you think?
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Powerful - and terrifying! Some words of caution...
My own experiences with Salvia were marginally positive. I certainly "learned" a great deal from them in the form of the sort of criticism one would like to get from an honest and caring friend.
On the downside, however, I also found these experiences to be terrifying.
For the sake of readers here who haven't tried Salvia, but would like to, here are a few words of advice:
* Salvia isn't "fun." It isn't even close to being "fun." It is very powerful and intense - and interesting and fascinating. "Fun" is a word, however, that very few Salvia users would use to describe the experience.
* Neal Pollack's attempt to have a Salvia trip at a concert was not a good idea. One experiences profound "disassociation" during a Salvia "trip." This means that you are completely cut off from your physical surroundings and in another world. If you smoked Salvia behind the wheel of a car, you would crash the car. If you smoke Salvia while operating machinery, you would likely harm yourself. If you smoked Salvia in public with a group of people who didn't know what you were doing, they would likely call 911 for medical attention. You might as well be on a different planet for the 5 or 10 minutes you're on your "trip." Note, too, that a solo Salvia trip can be troublesome as well... Candles could be knocked down and start a fire without you even knowing it. You could end up walking around, crashing into furniture, falling down stairs, etc. Be careful!
I would cautiously recommend a trial Salvia trip only for experienced psychedelic drug users who really want to push the envelope. Salvia can be a valuable tool, but also unwieldy. The learning experience gained during a Salvia trip is far more oriented towards you being "shown" wisdom, unlike an LSD trip which is a far more "interactive" learning experience.
Finally, it's worth noting that until just a few years ago, Salvia was largely "undiscovered" and only used by Mazatec Indians near Oaxaca Mexico. American curiosity and commerce may have "saved" the plant from a slow extinction in the dry Mexican highlands. We should be thankful to the Mazatec for sharing this magic plant from their pharmacopoeia with us.
For more Salvia info, see http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml or click on my profile link.
Vaya con dios!
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Nothing like LSD
If you had half a clue what an acid trip was like you would never compare it so salvia.
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Try Ayahuasca
Much more intense than Salvia and lasts for 4 hours or more (along with some vomiting). I suggest going to Peru or Brazil, where it is legal, and do it with a shaman.
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@Steve EVfuture
Ayahuasca is pretty intense, too. Not for the uninitiated or the faint of heart.
Good old LSD, mushroom or mescaline trips should be sufficient for most seekers' needs.
Nobody should move on to Ayahuasca or Salvia before they've had some experience with one or more of the "standard" psychedelics.
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journeys
I too have noticed that drugs do this a lot.
While on X -God told me I should become a heart surgeon, it's so comforting to hear Gods voice, cause you know he is just one of us(and unlike he is depicted he doesn't have the answers to everything)/because unlike us he doesn't care.
carefree.
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I tried some K recently and had the same experience.. the body stretched out and elongated into the infinite universe ...that wonderful feeling of growing millions of miles up -knowing you'll never crash down, priceless.
as much research as there is on drugs; maybe there needs to be more on the common "trip" and spiritual commonalities all drug users experience...
and the love of techno there after..
for god sakes,
somebody research that.
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Three things that are essential for coming down:
lots of water,
a good friend,
and some upbeat techno music.
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definitely curious
Even when I was a youngster, I always proceeded with great caution when using LSD or mushrooms (and not very often). When ingested judiciously, it can be a very positive experience.
Several years ago I was prescribed Ambien, and I was told to take 1 before bed. I did this, and ended up sitting in the bathroom, where I was convinced the bathmat and cleaning products were discussing me. I then scribbled pages and pages of who knows what in a journal.
The next day, I called my mom and asked her if this was normal. She inquired how many milligrams they gave, and then said, "Honey, you should probably be taking half." I did from then on (but have since avoided sleeping pills). That first dosage was not unlike a mushroom trip, and even the 1/2 dosage was still somewhat trippy but quite pleasant.