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Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:00 AM

"Why do these men want to coach little girls?"

Former national champ Jennifer Sey exposes the anorexia and sexual and mental abuse that are rampant in elite women's gymnastics.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2008 06:07 AM

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"Would trade," not "would not trade."

That's not a Freudian slip; I changed it from "I would not trade" to "neither she nor I would trade," and didn't catch that stray "not."

And once again may I ask for the ability to edit our own letters?

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 06:45 AM

There was gymnastics before the 80s...

There was an abrupt change in gymnastics in the mid 70s-early 80s, with Olga Korbut and Nadja Comaneche (sp?). I remember the Olympics and world-class competitons that were televised BEFORE then, and I also remember many of the girls who competed against those two -- the standard for a gymnast used to be quite different. They were slim, but muscular and many of the girls were in their late teens. It was common to see girls who had nice, curvy, womanly bodies -- even breasts, LOL.

Olga and Nadja were so popular and won so many medals, that both their gymnastics style AND their tiny little girl bodies became the new goal. When they competed against the "old style" gymnasts, it looked like a cute little girl competing against her mom.

It speaks volumes about our culture, that men and women both, we prefer the bodies of tiny lithe little girls to those of sexually mature women. It's about weight, but in some ways the weight is only an issue as weight is correlated with maturity, and what we really despise and don't enjoy looking at is....female maturity. (If you wanted to take it a long LONG way, it's reflective of how we feel nationally about Hilary Clinton.)

The style of the older gymnasts used to be far more graceful and balletic, especially the Russian girls. It was based more on an overall performance style, than the quicker and more trick-oriented style of the newer performers. If you had an old videotape, and could watch Olga Korbut's Olympic performance, you would also see she did a lot of playing to the camera, little-girl, flirtacious gestures.

Many of the same "new style" limitations have affected ice skating competiton -- it's not just gymnastics. Peggy Fleming won the '68 Olympics in a simple homemade dress (very modestly cut) and doing a balletic sort of routine of the kind that wold never even get you chosen to make the team, let alone compete at the Olympic level. Now everything in skating is about triple jumps, the kind that are nearly impossible to achieve unless you are very tiny.

I think some reforms have been instituted -- for example, there is an age limitation, and I think it's 15 or 16 for world class competitions, which automatically limits the tiniest girls.

But is there still a problem? I think yes. Coaches may differ a lot, but there is still an unhealthy emphasis on weight and extreme dieting. It's a super-extreme reflection of the rest of society, where the ability to compete for things like jobs, boyfriends, parental approval, etc. are all closely linked to what women weigh, not who they are on the inside. It's all part of some larger competition, in which the victors are the skinniest -- and the hungriest.

"I saw them as heavy, because the accepted aesthetic was thinner." As if that only applied to gymnastics! I wish!

BTW: Joan Ryan's book (Little Girls in Pretty Boxes) covered this identical issue, and is excellent reading on the subject. She echoed the exact same things as Ms. Sey a good ten years ago.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 06:51 AM

Libel is not really a possibility

If you have anything at all to hide, you dont dare sue for libel. Even if the specific charge IS libelous, you must testify under oath. None of these people would be willing to do that. Its almost impossible to sue for libel.

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 07:27 AM

unhealthy preoccupation with weight

At a weigh-in when I was a high school gymnast, my (female) coach arbitrarily told me to lose five pounds. I was/am 5'6" and weighed about 123 at the time.

Until that day I had given little if any thought to my weight, but suddenly food and eating became fraught with danger and guilt. It was the beginning of an eating disorder that I've struggled with on and off for 30 years.

To this day, I still hover around 123 (thanks to a lot of yoga and strenuous sports) but I still cannot eat a full meal without feeling, on some level, panicky and disgusted with myself. Such a boring thing to be wasting mental and emotional energy on in one's 40s!

Gymnastics was a wonderful experience for me in many ways, but it can really mess with your head. Bad enough that our culture prizes unnatural female thinness and beauty over achievement to begin with. Gymnasts learn that you can't have one without the other.

These days, I like my body most of the time, but I really wish I could be less aware of it. Maybe when I'm 80...

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 07:31 AM

It comes from the top down

As long as judges continue to reward risky, dangerous maneuvers, the sport will continue to generate girls who can pull those stunts off. Contrast this with rhythmic gymnastics, which has less acrobatics and more grace and rhythm.

It is nice and all that someone who was involved in this sport is describing the conditions of her internment, we all need some perspective now and then, but really, as someone else pointed out, football and other sports are also risky and dangerous and the competitive instinct wins out, like it or not.

I dare say, this author might not have gotten as far as she has, being ambitious enough to write this book, were she NOT successful in her career. Never mind the mental acuity and ambition she has acquired as a result of her training, as rough as it may have been (this is not meant to excuse this sort of abusive training necessarily, but there are always good and bad sides to everything).

As for the male coaches issue, since women have never been men, they cannot comprehend what men think. So don't even try, it embarasses you women.

I personally adore and always have adored contortionism. Even when I was a small boy, I got pretty good at bending my body into fascinating positions- in a way, it is an addictive high.

There can never be doubt that gymnastics is a highly sexually charged sport, half nude women contorting themselves into weird shapes. So it is natural for men (and women too) to be attracted to this element of the sport. It is what drives the popularity of the sport.

The problem becomes that the women most capable of these contortions happen to be too young to be considered sexually available.

Yet this would never stop any ambitious male from trying to coach the sport. The human body is fascinating, and the thought that one may be able to bend one's body, or, by proxy, the body of a more pliable [young woman] is enticing, if only from the pure sense of achievement and awe at the artistry of it.

So, there may be some inappropriate lewdishness associated with the age issue, but in most cases, I suspect, that is more of a by product rather than a primary driver of these guys motives.

I mean, would you rather be the guy shoveling coal or working women's bodies into impossible shapes? A no brainer.

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