Letters to the Editor
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Some women just don't get it
Some women don't get it. It's fine that they are proud and excited about the first woman candidate with a real chance to win, but don't expect everyone to jump on the bandwagon because you have. Yes, there are some men with a gut reaction every time they hear or see HRC, but the majority are turned off by her sense of entitlement to the Democratic nomination. HRC and her backers seem to feel how dare Obama challenge her when it is their time. A detached look at the candidates backgrounds reveal that she has no more experience than Obama and I dare say if HRC was an experienced candidate such as Pelosi, Mikulski,or Boxer she would not have been challenged. Unless you are Eleanor Roosevelt, who was involved in all the issues of her day, being first lady is not job experience. The recent release of White House papers revealed the HRC was not present at the most important foreign policy and domestic policy meetings during the Clinton administration. The truth is when HRC was given the health care issue in the Clinton Administration she bungled it and she voted for the Iraq war. That's why men won't vote for her.
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Bros before Hos Obama Tshirt made my son a Hillary voter
Despite my assurances that the shirt was probably made by the students themselves on campus, not by the campaign, it hit a nerve. And it has become the household code word for the sexism lying between the lines as we listen to Hillary getting the "woman edit" throughout the election.
From what those who have worked directly with Barack, he is no more progressive, no more politically transformative than Hillary. There were plenty more transformative candidates this year -- Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul -- if true political transformation were the goal. nterestingly, I have heard far less Hillary hating from their supporters than from the Barack camp.
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As so often the case,
the letters here are 100 times more thoughtful than the original piece. The original is the sort of pseudo-representation of the whole picture we get in a COSMO story on dating. "Kathy in Kalamazoo loves it when her man talks dirty to her, but Annie in Albuquerque thinks it is gross." What is that?
If Salon's brilliant take on 2008 is that Clinton is SO obviously the deserving candidate, and only sublimated reptilian prejudice could possibly have derailed her coronation; then Salon will stand alone in history.
We have a huge past and an expansive present with the Clintons. We are not stupid in favoring Obama. And if you have any doubt about Obama's progressive bona fides, just look at the much longer voting record of Dick Durbin. Then compare THAT to the DLC record of the Clintons.
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4 More Years of "Clinton"
Porcelain: You are absolutely right to criticize those who doubt that Hillary, not Bill, would be calling the shots in a new Clinton White House. But to be fair, there was a very unique partnership at work in President Clinton's administration, with the First Lady wielding unprecedented influence and authority. Senator Clinton's unsuccessful stewardship of her Health Plan is but one example of a person, who was neither elected or appointed to an official administration role, given leadership of an important policy initiative. Given that, who is to say what kind of significant responsibilities Fmr Pres. Clinton could assume.
I don't disagree that sexism is a factor in this election, just as is racism and even ageism. But I think that denigrates legitimate issues and concerns one can have with Senator Clinton as a candidate. She was never the most personable of candidates, not unlike Kerry or Gore, for that matter. But more importantly, she is representative of a wing in the party that left us with a Republican congress and majority GOP governorships in 2000; that chose to abandon Red States as an election strategy; and that kowtowed to the Bush administrations war aims and curtailment of civil liberties. I think there is valid room for criticism of the candidate on those grounds and more.
Finally, for all those tired of candidate worship, whether for Obama or Clinton: you're right. This election should not be about blind idolizing of anyone. At the end of the day, whoever wins is essentially our employee, and should be held accountable by realistic measures.
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Don't fall for the gop's game. they are trying to dissillusion and disenfranchise us.
this is the game the gop plays everytime, progressvies. Don't buy their game. let them play amoungst themselves. But never back down.
The game salon/joan play is thus. They try and get you angry. Tehy try and get you with gothca lines. So they can cirulate it amounsgt themselves and build false narratives. The goal is to silence you TRUE progressives. The real joan and salon does this everyday is to wear you down. to get you to throw in the towel, and say screw it. Don't fall in. Keep fighting. The gop mindset, which joan salon are not part of, is WHO EVERY IS THE LOUDEST WINS. That is the game they play. It is how they justify their fascist and tactics. They assume if we back down we weren't serious at all. This is the game the gop has played always. WHOEVER IS THE LOUDEST WINS. Do not back down. Let her build false narratives, trying to get a rise, for profit. let them. Clinton can't win. The gop already lost. Their only hope is to sabotage obama before the nomiation, THAT HE ALREADY WON, is final.
don;t fear or back down now. WE WON. If you back down you allow the gop, I mean clinton supporters,to steal the nomination. Don't back down, true real progressives. Don;t allow a one party system to take over. If we allow a one party system we are no longer america. We are a fascist police state. So fight for america. If not you true progressives who. Who will fight the gop and for america, rather than joan/salon who fight america and truth for money. Will clinton fight the gop? Reid? Di fi? rockafeller? The dnc? Salon? joan walsh? Where were they when we needed them? The same place they are now. Behind the gop.
Don;t back down true progressives. The gop game is to try and silence and disenfrancise you. this is how they get peopel to hate poitics and not vote. Don;t fall for the fascists tricks.
how did a republican catholic become the editor of a progressive webiste? think on that and you will understand what is goin on here. Burning the candle at both ends. Don;t fall for the gop's games. Continue the fight against the gop .The battle is not over until we win. don't back down. These rush limbaugh sean hannity bobble heads will never changed and acknowledge reality .They are fascist propogandists sent to cloud the debate, divide and conquer.
Don't let them win by not voting or backing down. That is their only chance. Keep up the good fight agaisnt eh fascist gossip propogandists. Let them whine cry and complain. Let them lie spin and discredit. Ast ditch effort. The gop is about to be irrelevant for a generation. Clinton's only future is the lieberman or gop route. now is not the time to back down. Now is the time to give the gop, clinton included, the irrelevance they have earned. To NOT do that does them no favors. Don't back down people. If we don't fight for america and it's ideals, who will. Clinton? We've been waiting 8 years for her to fight? Other than her fight progressives and liberals, still waiting.
Don;'t give the fascists what they crave people. Credibility. they are done. Allow them to be. you knwo your not sexist. You know your for obama because of a number of reasons. Not love. not a cult. Not any bogus arguement these us weekly gossipers say. It's their last ditch effort. they are sad pathetic creatures doing whatever they can to save their fascist party, that no credibility or accountaiblity buried.
Keep up the fight. Let them play their games amoungst their selves. It's not working. clinton bought a few states, in the past with bill. Pa is one. She wins that but loses teh rest. FRet not. We knew the gop was going to burn the country as they went down in flames. Don;t buy in. Laugh and pity them. Don't give them the credibility they have not earned, and crave. Fight teh gop as we have. We must finish them