Letters to the Editor
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Racist Salon
Of course... the title of this article referring to Obama ‘boys’ is coded racism.
Why not? It makes about as much sense as some of the non-examples of sexism in the article.
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@AnaHadWolves
I wonder if we can't differentiate between the Senator and his supporters. He's shown himself capable of feeling and principles.
If he achieves his objective and wins the nomination, runs for president and wins that, will the Obamabots be content or will they want a personal return on their emotional and ideological investment.
Politicians are politicians. Just as the Bushes let the "angry white men" twist in the breeze and Bill Clinton saw the prosperity during his administration circle the drain, I wonder if Obama will disavow -- not his responsible, committed supporters -- but the yelping 'bots who mistake insult for ethics. For the older ones, it'll be same old, same old: the younger ones are going to find themselves discarded if/as/when they prove the petulant annoyance to Obama that they are to many of his opponents right now.
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@maureen O'Donnellm-- VP in A Hawaii Bank
One of the problems you face when commenting on this election -- with an extreme deficit of knowledge of the United States is that you make statements that reveal a lack of understanding. Thus you sneer that Obama comes from a rich privileged background because his Grandmother was a "vice president" in a Hawaii bank.
Vice-president in a retail bank in the US does not mean the same thing as being a vice-president in say the Bank or Ireland or Allied Irish. In most small local bank branches it means essentially assistant-manager ... the head bank teller might be titled VP. Moreover, unlike Ireland, Bank staff are not heavily unionised, and for the last 20-40 years their pay has been so-so. So being Vice President in a Hawaian bank branch is not a "rich" job, its a middle-middle class job.
Tellingly Obama went to a prep-school, but as a "scholarship boy." Again you need to see this as a issue different from that in Ireland, which uses what Americans call a voucher program for its scools, so that even the top schools in Ireland, sai Blackrock, Kings Hospital, The High School, Clongowes, though theoretically private, are in fact remarkably cheap by US and UK standards because teachers salaries are essentially paid by the state. Middle class people in the US increasingly cannot afford to send their kids to any sort of private school unless they get a scholarship, and those are heavily competed for.
By contrast Hillary was the daughter of quite well-off parents, who lived in a well off suburb, where the public high school was very well funded (multiple swimming pools, rifle range!) as compares to the state schools in Hawaii. Her parents were able to send her to the very tony Wellesely College a women's liberal arts college, where she promptly joined the college republicans (at that time Wellesley was for rich girls) and then they paid for her to go to Yale, which was then the US 'aristocratic' college (where for example multiple generations of the Bush family went), a place considered even today to be much more of a hot-house than Harvard, and a law school which has a reputation as mostly graduating law professors and few practical lawyers (Harvard has a slightly less "professor" mill reputation, but is a larger law school.)
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Can't remember who said it, but I feel it...
"I have not left the Democratic Party, but the Demcratic Party has left me!"
I have been insulted in so many ways from Obama and his supporters. Let's see all of the things I can recall, I am old, poor, uneducated, typical, white racist, Republican, bitter person wrapped in the American flag, bible thumping bigot, lunch bucket Democrat that may cling to guns because I am so frustrated.
Not to mention the very second Obama started campaigning, he did nothing but insult the Clinton's and their time in office, using talking points never used by the Democratic Party, only by the Republicans. Never has he once acknowledged what the Clinton's have done for the Democratic Party nor has the majority of the talking head trolls which is why all of his supporters claim they are worthless and completely dismiss all of their greatness. I could never figure out why the Republicans detested the Democrats before, now I do. Now I am beginning to understand how flaky the nutty left is. It is so embarrassing and I will never defend Obama against the Republicans the way I have defended the Clintons against the Republicans because I see nothing to defend. If Obama had truly been above it all as he claims he is, then maybe I could find it in me to support him, but he has been underhanded and slimy which to me belongs on the Republican side, not the Democratic side.
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I don't BELIEVE it!!!!
Now Clinton throws Gore and Kerry under the bus!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/clinton-gore-and-kerry-we_n_96452.html
Obama then says, "I think Al Gore won." to applause.
For god's sake somebody stop her! Gore got way more of the popular vote than her husband did in his first election! She really will say anything. Do anything. The Republicans are loving it. Munch munch... eat your own... munch munch.
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The article is simplistic
There are legitimate criticisms of Hillary and illegitimate. Yes some of the critique is sexist, so is some of the Hillary supporters views of Obama, along with a little racism from time to time.
There are also issues about Hillary that are couched in gender, at the problem is are they sexist issues or not. For example, one of the complaints and issues is that she claims as part of her "experience" her period as First Lady, i.e., Bill's wife. The problem is that it is hard to address this issue without getting into a gender question (since Bill is on its face extravagantly heterosexual) ... how does one ask if this is real experience without getting into gender issues. Or one has to problem that Hillary has been running as the "woman" candidate, again how does one address this without getting into gender issues. Indeed every critique of Hillary runs into the half-witted Joan Walsh' type argument that the critique reflects inherent sexism. And this type of whining is beginning to drive the debate, just as when Hillary was the front runner in election, and was faced with 7 men, the claim was that the mean boys were ganging up on her.
Not all criticisms of Obama are racist or sexist, not all criticisms of Hillary are sexist. There are a lot of legitimate points been made, but also an effort by Clintonistas and some Obama supporters to delegitimate points by yelling Racist and Sexist.