Letters to the Editor
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Madame
Hillary did not disparage Obama...you read all that into her comments. And what about Obama praising Reagan...that infuriated me. He was transparently trying to get Republicans to cross over and vote for him in Nevada. Obama has equated the Clinton years with the Bush years. Talk about insulting and untrue!
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Quoth Cythera:
Josiah Rowe, Obama is not charismatic
You just want a cool black friend, like all the other sad little white boys.
Leaving aside the personal remark, because I'm not going to sink to that level, I really don't see how anyone can deny Obama's charisma. And it's not just my opinion: do a Google search for "Obama charisma" and see what comes up: headlines from the Boston Globe, U.S. News & World Report, the Times of London, the Huffington Post, the New York Post... all saying that Obama has charisma. Now look at the results for "Hillary charisma". It's mostly blogs talking about her lack of charisma, or "negative charisma"... even an article mentioning the charisma of Sir Edmund Hillary comes up before anyone saying anything positive about Hillary Clinton.
Quoth sesanders:
Do you really think the Republicans are going to take a nap if Obama is the nominee? Can you possibly think their base is not going to be energized? Be honest with yourself.
No, they're not going to take a nap, and they're going to try to get their base energized — but I honestly don't think that the conservatives would be as motivated against Obama as they would be against Hillary. There are lots of conservatives (like my parents) who despise Hillary with a blazing passion but regard Obama merely as a bit wet behind the ears. I can imagine a lot of far-right voters who would get out and canvass against Hillary but sit on their hands in a McCain-Obama race. The Republican machine will try to make Obama as hated as Hillary is in those quarters, but I just don't see the attempt working. These people have been hating Hillary for sixteen years. There's just no way that they can push Obama to the negatives she's got.
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emichel
You need to report that to the Obama campaign. I am sure his campaign might put something on their website to discourage such T-shirts. Or you can report this to your local Obama campaign office
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@blackpaw
i'm going to sleep soon, but first i wanted to tell you i tried reading broadsheet's piece on seal press - twice. i can't understand it. i think you have to be female. well, i sort of understand what is being said, but i don't get the PICTURE if you know what i mean. i see snotty white gals and angry black ones. what's the surprise in this? isn't this the usual state of affairs?
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Hillary guaranteed this level of animosity
... when it became known that one of her chief arguments for the superdelegates, as to why they should vote for her despite the pledged delegate count, was that a larger percentage of her supporters hated Obama and would never vote for him than Obama supporters would refuse to vote for her. And she acted in her own camp to make sure her supporters would despise Obama with as burning a passion as she could muster towards someone who holds the same ideals she publicly espouses.
Well, there's only one counter for that: make sure the negatives in the Obama camp for Hillary at least match the negatives in her camp for him.
To wit: the hell with Hillary. I might've considered voting for her if she won, but not now. The militant Hillary supporters, who claim that I have to vote for her if I'm in favor of women's rights, can suck eggs, because not only would I never vote for her for anything, I want that lying asshole (I have to use that word, because the 'b' word has been taken off the table by Joan Walsh) kicked out of the Democratic Party for good, and never heard from again.
Let her and her crooked husband spend their grubby hundreds of millions of dollars how they like and leave the rest of us to have ourselves an actual country.
Hillary is an awful human being and should not be supported by anyone. That Salon is supporting her so thoroughly tells me everything I ever needed to know about how Salon has miraculously stayed afloat despite a depressing daisy chain of failed business models.
At this point, the Clintons could buy and sell Salon 50 times over, and when this primary election is over, they'll have no further use for it.
Salon employees, pack your bags. Your jobs have apparently been about boosting Hillary, and even if she miraculously gets the nomination by every filthy, ugly tactic imaginable, you'll still have served your purpose. Time to clean out your desks, and cut Gleen Greenwald free to find a new home where Hillary doesn't control every word.
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Josiah
Don't be concerned, cythera is just our little resident turd.
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luminesce lunacy
Having the impression you were possibly bright, perhaps a searcher, I tried to give some hints about reality. That obviously will not work. You're stupid. You want bromides, simple answers, bumblestickers that you can paste on your brain. Hillary has live a life of uninterrupted privilege, an elitist education, marriage to a rising political star whose name she continues to ride, and a checkered career of some merit, and some very hard to explain away compromises (need I list them, or are you really that dull?) If it gets you through your dreary days praying to St. Hillary, knock yourself out. Your brain is not in danger. You're sitting on it. Now, tell me, exactly, which of these things was sexist? Because you and Hill have fallopian tubes? Get the hell real. this is about life and death, not some mooning high school infatuation with a myth that no sane person would entertain. Hillary Rodham, Goldwater Girl, got liberal when it was trendy, went to rich girls' schools, married for the reasons mentioned above (and, to her credit, it would seem, for love. I cannot fault that, not her staying with the slime ball after he'd schtuped half of DC. But if she expects extra credit for hanging in and keeping the name, minus the hyphen, tough shit. If you anticipate feminist support for that kind of fainting couch Camille behavior, you are indeed to be pitied. Vote as you will, as is your perfect right. You may well be backing the better candidate. I do not fancy myself a clairvoyant. But all this weepy, pissy, pitiful pearl act won't play any more. Grow up; I suspect you are younger by a fur peace than our children, the youngest of which is 28. My daughters, now 35 and 32, would horse laugh at your cowering stance, your limp self pity, your sad glorification of a very ordinary woman with extraordinary brains and ultra extraordinary opportunities. On the ground you have chosen, you have no credibility, and no traction. Call AAA. At least you're better off than Cyphllis, who needs to call AA. I truly wanted to help, but you don't want that. Be right. Be righteous. Most of all, be self-righteous.