Letters to the Editor
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@firefly82
i can't imagine why a guy would send that message to a gal - but i could EASILY see "Repeal the 19th!" said as a joke - with an underlying frustration that his favored candidate was losing. i wrote this all in a previous post but i see you don't read. why? nothing to gain?
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Self PIty Ain't Pretty
Feminism is morally bankrupt. Misogyny is even worse. The only defensible position is egalitarian. Ms. Clintons gender played no part in her name recognition (she didn't run as Rodham, or hyphenated as she'd been for so much of her public life. Her name, her call, but interesting.) It played no part in the funds she raised, or loaned herself, or in the people with whom she surrounded herself. She took a huge- one might say insurmountable lead- and piddled it away. Whether she piddled sitting down or standing up is not in the least relevant. Does sexism exist. Of course. Is it virulent for rich white women? No. Does it compare in any way to racism that blacks face? No, not close. If women, young or old, want respect, earn it. Don't whine when times get tough. You're equal, at least to me. Weak women are boring. Our family doesn't tolerate them. So this false sense of wounded virtue (the Obama men are nasty to me, mommy) does not comport with the strength many women possess, and have demonstrated in both public and private lives for the whole history of this country. Perhaps it's Ms. Clinton who's not that strong. Anyone can be smiling and magnanimous when they have a huge lead and a rose strewn path to the promised land. I find the charge of sexism as a plausible reason for Hill's downhill slide wanting. On a personal level- on these threads, and in my own behavior- there is truth to the fact that folks resort to stereotypical behavior. Admirable? Nope. A big deal. No. Hell no. 20 Americans died in Iraq last week. that's a very big deal. Foreclosures on homes are at the highest rate since the great depression. a huge deal. Unpleasant language? Just that.
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Thank you okidokithen!
You win my consistency award. Which is actually nothing except me saying that you win my consistency award.
I also have an ignore list. :D
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Thank you for writing this
Thank you for writing this Rebecca.
There is more to say than I have time for right now.
Safe to say there is still a lot of evolving to do.
There is still a lot that is very primitive.
It gives me comfort to know that most of those who rant the hardest here, and are the most irrational and misinformed, would never be able to be elected to public office.
There is a lot - too much for my liking - that is scary, dark, and creepy.
I think of the saying:
Grant me the courage to change those things I can
The serenity to accept those things I cannot change
And the wisdom to know the difference
Best ~
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Yup, I hate Hillary Rodham-Clinton.
Ever since her husband won his first presidency and her lacky's immediately informed us that her name was not Clinton, but Rodham-Clinton. She might have informed us before her husband won.
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@ MichelleC
So...white women are supposed to embrace the gleeful bashing of Clinton when it comes from a sexist origin? As stated in another thread, it's disheartening when people are negatively criticized for at least trying to produce positive social changes. Essentially it's punishing those making the effort, while letting the apathetic ones off the hook. Perhaps it would just be easier to give up completely...I wouldn't have to deal with hatred from conservatives and liberals alike. :)
I respect those who disagree with Clinton, but you will never convince me she warrants more bile than any other Democratic candidate in my lifetime. The fact that some Democrats aren't even as hateful towards Republican candidates is definitely a sign that sexism isn't going away anytime soon.
I'll happily support the nominee, but if Condi Rice was chosen as McCain's running mate you'd better believe there would be some serious temptation.
Yes, I just said this.
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luminesce
Oh my gad Lumi - you already joined Hillarobot Anonymous. Now that's a 12 step program you can count on. All the best. I really mean it. Happy recovery.
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Then WTF are you gonna do about it?
Look if you Salon ex-journalists are so commited to this Hillary candidacy that you are becoming so increasingly transparent about, then have the common decency to be up front about it. Your daily excuses to politically assassinate Barack Obama are becoming flimsier and flimsier. Since she WILL NOT be the Democratic nominee UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES save Obama's literal death within the next few months, tell us what then. Ralph Nader? John McCain? Be up front about what you want in November, Ms. Walsh and Ms. Traister; how far are you going to go with this Hillary Jahiliyyah Jihad? You keep doubling down and you're going to box youself into a corner that you can't get out of. Advocating for McCain, Ralph Nader, or a write-in Hillary Clinton vote? What is the endgame here?
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It's apparently all right for Clinton
to go off on a tangent, a complete bullshit tangent, when Obama makes a truthful statement about the feelings many Americans have about their economic circumstances. But calling bullshit on her, for the fiftieth time in this campaign, is apparently motivated solely by misogyny. Well, bullshit to that.
I'm sick and tired of all the messages Hillary and her surrogates has been sending out from her campaign lately. They are negative, they are unworthy, and they are wrong. If they were sent out by a white male, I'd like them not one whit better, or one whit worse. She is responsible for the campaign she is running.
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Lastest National Rasmussen Poll: Clinton 46, Obama 45
Maybe it's that bitter "cling-on effect? Get it? Cling. On.
It's funny the people here who go on and on and on and ON about how "unlikeable" Clinton is. It's laughable. If she's so unlikeable why is she still neck and neck with Obama? Apparently, to quote Obama, she's likeable...enough!
And I think THAT's what you all hate about her. That there are massive amounts of people who actually like her! Or love her! Who think she would make a absolutely great POTUS. And you all just can't stand that. And you go on and on about all her faults, etc., but the truth is, Clinton's not really THAT bad. At all. And you all know it. But you need an excuse to hate her, something to hang that hate on, so her being a woman becomes the crux, the focal point.
If it weren't so, this never have become an issue. The problem is you don't dare see the meaning of that. That her being a woman is what you have focused your hate on and what that says about sexism and misogyny and how it's used against women.
The problem is, that ALL women suffer for it.