Letters to the Editor
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Incubator on demand?!
So I guess some women will now be forced to become 'Incubators on Demand' in order to accommodate the needs of a parasitic growth. How is this better?
Hey news flash! They figured out what causes pregnancy! I don't think the SCOTUS decision forces women to get pregnant and carry babies to term. When you have sex you play the lottery even with protection sometimes you the numbers come up.
As far as the "parasitic growth" thing is concerned, well I knew it would only be a matter of time before you referred to yourself as a parasite. I guess you went ahead and evolved at the moment of your birth eh? So tell me, what was the difference 1 second prior to your birth and 1 second after. Nada.
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Thanks, Kim
I read the article you pointed to. It confirms what I had thought: intact D&X is usually performed during the 2nd trimester, not the third, and is a choice made to reduce the risk of complications. The phrase "late term" means late in the 2nd trimester, late in the abortion window, not late in the pregnancy.
The AMA's recommendation is in H 5.982(2):
According to the scientific literature, there does not appear to be any identified situation in which intact D&X is the only appropriate procedure to induce abortion, and ethical concerns have been raised about intact D&X. The AMA recommends that the procedure not be used unless alternative procedures pose materially greater risk to the woman. The physician must, however, retain the discretion to make that judgment, acting within standards of good medical practice and in the best interest of the patient.
(my emphasis)
The article Kim references does provide insight on why a physician might make that judgement.
On the issue of whether the Court ruled that a woman's health must ALWAYS be considered, the Court ruled:
Held: Respondents have not demonstrated that the Act, as a facial matter, is void for vagueness, or that it imposes an undue burden on a woman's right to abortion based on its overbreadth or lack of a health exception.
(again, my emphasis).
So it would appear, at least to this non-lawyer non-doctor, that the NYT article was correct, and the posters I cited previously, wrong. It is a 2nd trimester procedure, the AMA does not unqualifiedly recommend against it (they never "rule" on anything), and the provision upheld by the court does not contain a woman's health exception.
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Anonymous you are failing to see my point once again
"It's my business because it's my moral duty to speak up when a moral evil is being comitted"
Your "moral duty"? A "moral evil"?? If you would recall my previous questions to you...I asked who are you to say what is and is not moral? What makes you so morally superior to everyone else that you have the power to decide what is morally "evil" for everyone else? It is not your duty, anonymous, and it's none of your business. I don't really know how else to say this so that you understand. Your opinion is just that, an opinion, and you are certainly welcome to have it. But what makes you think that your opinion should be law? Yes, you have some opinions that are law, I'm sure but this one is different seeing as it directly affects one persons body and not the entire country as a whole. You're throwing around this world morality, but has anyone really defined morality? And if someone did, how could be possibly decide if his definition is correct? The fact is that we can't, which is why problems such of these are, once again, none of your business.
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darn html
confounded html, previous post. grrrr
BTW, I'd like to see how many of us would survive on our own. Maybe Agent Smith was right.
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realised that humans are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer on this planet, you are a plague, and we... are the cure.
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okay
Please cites your scientific sources on the undeniable, indisputable humanity of a "baby in the womb."
-- mizbinkley
Okay, it has a complete set of human DNA distinct from its mother's or father's. By 8 weeks of gestation it has a heartbeat, it's own fingerprints, and brain waves. Sounds human to me.
Now your turn: you tell me what you think it is..
And I'll repeat a question I asked earlier that no one has answered: You'll frequently see the term "potential" life. By the very definition of the word "potential," it must also be potentially something else, too. What precisely would that be?
Remember, you didn't come from an embryo (a very imprecise usage you often see); you were an embryo.
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not really
Your opinion is just that, an opinion, and you are certainly welcome to have it.
It's not "opinion" that the baby in the womb is human, and it's not "opinion" that killing the innocent merely for convenience is wrong.
Basic moral reasoning is not nearly as opaque as you make it sound--until you're trying to rationalize something, that is.
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What do these people want?
It's telling that many American's are beside themselves that they can no longer opt to have a viable infant repositioned in the womb so as to be partially extracted feet first before being stabbed in the brain. One could hardly find much difference between that and dumping a newborn in the trash. Susan Smith, Andrea Yates, Karen McCarron, Diane Downs and the hundreds of other mothers who have killed their children are the direct result of a culture which equates infants with tumors.
To say my nephew, who was born at 26 weeks and is today a healthy teenager, was not a human being at the time of his premature birth is an ignorant insult.
These people get up in arms over the term "partial-birth abortion" because they don't accept reality. They'd rather sterilize the term; if the wording is vague then the bloody truth can be ignored.
(Since my belief is going to raise many assumptions let me point out I'm a registered Democrat, Pro-Gay Rights (including marriage and adoption), against Bush and the war, sympathetic to Palestine, and believe in Evolution.)