Letters to the Editor
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Christianjb,
Sorry Chris, I didn't realize the OT doesn't count. Perhaps you'd like to inform this guy of the news:
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"
This is an evasion on your part. I didn't say the entire Old Testament was invalid, but considering that the New Testament revises the first, where one sees a blatant contradiction, a Christian's choice is clearly for the latter. Nor have you bothered to try to figure out what "fulfilling the law" means. Does it mean following the letter of the original or the spirit behind it? By what seems your very literal take on the quote, Jesus's insistence on turning the other cheek is hardly a fulfillment of the eye for an eye law found in the OT.
But then you decide none of it means anything anyway, which seems to contradict your original post. It it all means nothing, what was the point of your initial response anyway?
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It's been my suspicion for several months that Walsh is either presenting herself as or being groomed to be the anti-Arianna.
I don't think Huffington is ever going to endorse Hillary. Joan can be counted on to endorse whatever candidate they tell her to -- whomever "they" decide is "electable" -- so whatever she says now is harmless enough.
Like they say, watch what happens.
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Correction
One sentence of my previous post was very unclear:
"It also gave the impression (unintentionally I assume) of not caring about the propriety of sharing deeply personal details of her kid's life in public."
Forgive the other typos as well.
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Letter Writers Going on About the Vindictiveness Here
They really must spend very little time looking at online letters columns, not to mention chat rooms, etc. The letters relating to this article are not very hostile. People don't like Lamott, and are angered by what seems her lack of intelligence/comprehension, and they respond. Clearly there's emotion in the response. But it isn't as extreme as some of her defenders are claiming, and nowhere near the extreme often encountered in web postings.
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Joan Walsh
Have you finished that article which takes to task Hillary Clinton's support of permanent US military bases in Iraq? Am I overlooking the article on Salon? I realize how timely and compelling an interview with Anne Lamott must be. After all, she has all the answers. Maybe Lamott should run for President. She's obviously more important.
</snark>
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A quiet inspiration
When I reach her age, I hope I possess at least a small portion of the kindness and wisdom of Ms Lamott. I've missed her compassionate ruminations.
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Debra Dickerson, Camille Paglia and Anne Lamott
And now even Garrison Keillor is adding old-fashioned hate to his homespun wisdom. What in the world ever happened to this website?
After this article, at least now I know it's not by accident.
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vlodko, if you think
"it takes a lot of guts to write about slapping your kid." you ought to read Ayelet Waldman. i personally didn't have as much trouble with the slap as with *talking about it to the world*. how about the Golden Rule? what would it say about that! why would you want to embarrass someone you love? in public! is money that important? and those of you who *read* such gossip are you ever embarrassed *for* the children who have to live in such glass houses? do you ever feel like Peeping Toms? and yes, there are *worse* than Anne and Ayelet,(Nora Ephron for one - she makes *movies* about ex-husbands), but not here.
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I hate her and everything she stands for
Her namby pamby, I'm so holy that I slap my son in the face and then write about it to humiliate him further hypocritical dredlock sporting white girl ass. She makes me sick and I usually avoid her articles like the plague. She is the Kathie Lee Gifford of the writing world.
But I have to admit, she nailed it on Hillary.
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salon illustrations
do you guys try to make everyone look like they deserve a kick in their animated teeth? if so, mission accomplished.
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To Tyler
I'm going to take a wild guess Tyler. While you may have seen through the lies of the Bush administration I'll bet you were not planning to run for the presidency of a country that has been ruled by its right wing for most of the last fourty years at the time of the war vote. (If you have a file, did you say so at the time?)
I'm respecting your position, but I think it is naive. I think that is the problem that has put the right into power, and will keep them in power. While the liberals are looking for the perfect candidate, the conservatives have practiced solidarity.
Is your "reservation" so great that you will not vote if Hillary is nominated? Are you going to take all your chips and run--as liberals did in '00, and '04?
If so, I think you will bear a measure of responsibility if another neocon is elected. Hillary stopped voting for the war immediately once the facts were revealed--and she made a choice not to pander to the self-righteous when they made it into "the" issue. I think that is to her credit as well.
My position is not to give her a pass for any reason--but to play fair given the realities of the current consensus.
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Dizzy from the vitriol...
I very much enjoy reading Anne Lamott, at the same time recognizing the validity of some of the critiques of her writing...no need to repeat them.
I'm stunned from the degree of vitriol in the responses that are apparently just in response to the audacity of her showing up on Salon again, as the interview itself is pretty tame stuff.
I would be a little frightened of Salon readers too if I were her, based on these responses.
It was educational to learn that as either a feminist or an intellectual (both? either?), if I ever have or ever do set foot in a nail salon, anything I've ever stood for is out the window...I should be relieved that the present, unvarnished, bitten state of my fingers speaks well for me on both counts, and might deflect suspicion that I've ever been so banal as to have a manicure. Seems like another litmus test designed to put women in their place to me...where's the disdain over a male intellectual or writer who ever deigns to watch professional sports, drink cheap American beer, watch wrestling on cable, or any other equivalent, harmless, frivolity?
On a more serious note...I find it hard to believe that those who write with such certainty of her "child abuse" are in fact parents themselves. I haven't yet slapped my daughter, as she's only three, and have the committed intention not to do so, but I'm also suspect of anyone who does parent, and has not already managed to disappoint their expectations of themselves with regard to patience, grace, and virtue. Ever raised your voice harshly at your child? I disappoint myself every time I do, each disappointment increases my resolve to do better next time and also keeps me humble about the mistakes of others. I'm an atheist Unitarian, but there seems something "Christian" in that to me.
This whole business of Sam's name also seems kind of insane in this information age. There is almost no way NOT to disclose the names of one's children from the public record, and with the advent of the Internet, for a famous person's offspring to be easily indentifiable.
Anne...between this and your other Bastille Piece, I am prompted to think harder about what I can reasonably be doing to end the reign of the evil regime. Thanks Anne (and Molly) for that. I don't know what the right way is yet, but do agree it needs to find a way to involve those who don't see themselves as Molotov cocktail throwers.