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Friday, December 22, 2006 12:00 AM

Sexless and loving it

Dawn Eden, author of a new memoir about chastity, gets frank about why she thinks forsaking sex has made her a better Christian, a better lover and a better friend.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:57 AM

Come On Now!

The hypocrisy of Miss Eden's book is all too real. On one hand she's professing how in her heyday she was reknown for pleasuring men, then regretting it. Fair, but her turnaround can surely be better illustrated without braggadocio. She can name drop the Kama Sutra all she wants but my recollection of being intimate with her was that it was much like necrophilia or being carnal with a pillow. To me she'll always be a loud, self centered, tell-all, overweight, spandex clad, bra-less, hairy, attention whore. Her new "look at me everybody" guise may be that of a clean cut, slimmed down in your face Republican-Christian, but to me she'll always be a shrill harpie doing the monkey with body mass drooping over her go-go boots and out of her technicolor tights in between dishing what has been 60's rock n' roll star she balled! Among the people I knew Dawn was always tolerated because people felt sorry for her because of her chemical imbalance and her child-like innocent wide eyed flower waif routine, while others claimed it was all a ruse to manipulate and get over on people. I'm inclined to agree with the latter and wonder if still applies only this time under a different box/face/costume. I'm wondering if her Christian right friends recoil in horror when she shreiks loudly in a restaurant with them or talks over them while theyre speaking or adopts that sweet voice when she needs a ride to the airport or all too frankly shares the unecessary details of her promiscious mother or how many vintage musicians she's "been with". There are sluts and attention whores. Dawn was never a slut, just a sad case looking for the attention her family couldn't be bothered to give her. I imagine that this book is just another sad attempt at that.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 08:09 AM

Familar

As someone who knew Dawn both personally and physically I'm divided on her book. I respect her opinion, but I'm at odds with her politics which often see her towing the Republican/Christian right line till it's stretched like a well worn condom. I applaud her religious conversion as it obviously seems to have made her happier, which in the end, I guess is what we're all seeking but I can't say I'm at all interested in the subject matter. Indeed it seems a tad too "personal" to me, but Dawn has always been a "public" person regardless of the topic, I'm just hopeful I'm not mentioned in the book in any way.

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 08:10 PM

...and why should I care?

I mean really! Why should anyone care if Ms. Eden does it or doesn't. What is it with us that we would devote more than a nano-second to the subject of this woman's sex life? There are a lot of folks out there who are celibate, although mostly not by choice.

I'm more interested in why anyone would be a fundamentalist anything. Extremism is no virtue. And extremism in "God's" name is a vile and filthy thing (as opposed to good sex between loving humans). I am sick of religion and its fanatical devotees who happily murder other humans because they pray to a different god.

Thursday, January 18, 2007 06:53 PM

Abstinence

I believe in chastity/abstinence when you're not in a God given/directed relationship. I believe when you're on track, and fulfilling your destiny, serving God, and you meet your soulmate you should have a healthy sex life. Sex was created by God. I do believe depression sets in when you have frivolous sex or are involved in a relationship that is not meant to be. Being in the center of God's will for your life is a difficult road, it's neither carnal, or being a self-appointed martyr(making unecessary sacrifices). Nor is it being religeous, it is following God's leading by the Holy Spirit. Until a person truly knows God's will for their life and is doing all they can to follow Him, He will direct a person in the way that they should go. Just like everything in life, there is a time for peace, and a time for war,a time to be born, a time to die, etc., there is a time for chastity and a time for great sexual fulfillment, without guilt. I hope you sort it out and find your God-given soulmate that you are so yearning for. All the best.

Monday, January 15, 2007 08:20 PM

Sexless and loving it

This article made the front page for a reason: To be a woman and confess having sex like a man is feminist in nature and Salon likes to celebrate that sort of thing. The "sex confessional" book by women has been all the rage since Candice Bushnell made millions. Unfortunately, these books, along with the new crop of female celebrities, have made today's females seem like brainless, sex-obsessed attention-whores. Eden is no different; she's just pious about it.

What SHOULD have been addressed is whether Eden's writing was compromised by her sleeping with her subjects. Her credibility is already in question.

Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:54 PM

Everyone has their neuroses

The only question is why Salon thinks Ms Eden's are worth reiterating.

Friday, December 29, 2006 09:37 AM

credibility zero

how does this lady expect any credibility when she was fired as a newspaper copywriter for changing the facts in a news story to further her political views!

sorry, zero credibility, lady

Thursday, December 28, 2006 02:23 PM

Like Mr. T, I pity the fool.

The insecurity Eden reveals in this interview is shocking. I’m still reeling from it an hour after reading, and just had to respond to it.

Eden used to only feel good about herself when she thought men found her sexually attractive and then awful when they left, now she only feels good about herself when she is completely celibate and awful when she fantasizes? Get this woman a hair vest because she loves torturing herself, or at least has an unstoppable compulsion to do so.

Her real problems have not disappeared from her life just because sex has. She’s quite honest about the fact that she’s still terrified she’ll be unmarried at forty - which says that chaste or not, she doesn't value herself alone nearly enough.

Her obsession with marriage has also wildly skewed her views of relationships. She sees each man as a goal unfulfilled (her exes) or waiting to be fulfilled (her new boyfriend). And she all but blames men for the pain her early promiscuity brought to her. (If she even was promiscuous. It's possible that her poor self-esteem, her conversion to a restrictive faith, and perhaps even her book deal has made her view her indiscretions a little more harshly than is warranted.)

Several times in the interview, she contradicts herself. She wants her opinions to sound strong, so she uses aggressive blanketing language that she can’t back up because she is not strong. She is still as eager to please and unsure of herself as she was in her “Sex and the City” days. (A side note: For your sake, please find a new contemporary allusion Ms. Eden. Your dated reference will only aid defensive singles in ignoring you.)

But honestly, I’m concerned for this woman. She doesn’t need an agent or a blog community, she needs a therapist or a minister who will tell her that it is her fear of not being loved that has destroyed her self-esteem and not sex. She needs to make peace with herself and what she does or doesn’t do in the sack. Until then, I hope she won’t have children because she’ll be doing that for the wrong reasons too.

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