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Friday, April 18, 2008 12:00 AM

We want a kid but don't think it's right to have one

How can you bring a kid into the world when you can't know in advance if the kid wants to exist?

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Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:28 PM

You have got to be kidding

This is a joke, right?

Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:39 PM

Good for a laugh...

What an endearingly stupid question. California? Question, if someone tried to throw you off a cliff would you resist? Probable answer, although not guaranteed from you dear LW, is yes. That is, people cling to life. They wouldn't cling to it so greatly if they didn't value it.

If your child didn't like life, you could apologise and assist with the child's suicide, or just kill the child as an act of contrition if the child requests return to non existence.

However I think it's probably better you don't procreate. Is your favourite book Catch 22?

Cary, loved your whimsy.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:44 PM

Mental meltdown in a material world

You are giving yourselves way too much credit and power here. To play devs adv with you, what if a soul wants to be born? What if you have valuable lessons to learn and to teach? What if it's the next Nobel Prize winner seeking to rent your womb? The what if's are going to keep coming and soon enough you'll be too old. There are some places in the world reproducing at an alarming rate and others who have dwindling numbers that are equally as alarming. Some people have chosen other ways of "creating" perhaps, but the judgement you lay down here isn't moving the conversation forward.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:46 PM

A perfect letter for Salon

I highly recommend you slap on your Crocs and shlep over to an adopt a highway program and pickup trash by the side of the road instead of having a child to love.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:49 PM

Sure some people think this way

But no one who should be having any kids. You're way too neurotic. No offense.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:57 PM

the problem as I see it

is that you are both insane, not to call names or be judgmental you understand, just trying to enlighten

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:06 PM

Okay, I'll take the LW seriously

If this is a real question (why not? what's so great about life anyway?), my guess is that the LW has at some point wished she'd never been born. But if she "desperately" wants a child, it sounds like a thirst for life has been regained. So consider, LW--has it been worth it? If you think so, chances are good your hypothetical kid would.

But...it's a little strange that this would be an actual reason not to have a kid. I wonder if there are other reasons you're having trouble looking at.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:06 PM

By the way...

I think the Chinese government would gladly employ you as a travelling teacher of philosophy and family planning.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:09 PM

a holocaust survivor comedian said this first-

"the greatest good fortune is to have never been born- but who among us has been so lucky?"

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:13 PM

No way

This letter has got to be fake.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:15 PM

Pissy Teens the World Over

have been known to yell this at the parental unit(s):

"I didn't ASK to be born!"

No mature adult actually takes them seriously. It's technically true but really too ridiculous to address.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:16 PM

haha Torontonian!

Good, very good!

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:18 PM

Too Many Decisions

Home birth or hospital? Foreskin or circumcision? Breast or bottle? Home-made or Gerber? Shots or not? Montessori or kindergarten?

If your first question stumps you so much, I imagine you'd be paralyzed by the rest.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:21 PM

Adopt, for Chrissakes!!

Problem solved. The kid's existence is somebody else's fault.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:22 PM

A dog perhaps instead of a child?

These small mammal-ish creatures are all largely the same.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:28 PM

I believe this is a real question

I liked the way Cary's answer focuses on logic in a lyrical way.

One thing I've learned about being a parent is that you do have to steel yourself against the guilt/shame/sadness that comes from seeing the lovely baby that depended completely on you go into the world and get all sullied. It happens. The idea of the perfect happy baby, toddler, child, teen, young adult is going to be shattered sooner or later.

Blaming yourself or your spouse or whomever won't relieve the guilt the way it can when something bad happens to yourself, because parents are supposed to protect their children. You really have to just accept that all you can do is your best and that the kid will have to play the hand he or she was dealt.

The letterwriter is already recognizing this stressful aspect of parenthood, which could be first step toward being able to cope with it.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:40 PM

Sorry

If you are this paralyzed before the kid is even conceived, you'll end up catatonic over something like choosing a school.

I hear an enormous amount of fear. Let it go. Parents just do their best. We're none of us perfect. Besides, it's not that complicated. You'll figure it out as you go. Love them, respect them, teach them some values, require some chores, and enjoy who they turn out to be. That takes care of most of it.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:40 PM

Why Was I Born?

A few years ago, I found out that I almost wasn't born. I'm adopted, and I discovered that my birthmother was a college student who could have gone to another state and had an abortion. For whatever reason, she didn't. (If I'd been in her shoes, I might well have made the other choice.)

It made me wonder. I know a lot of teenagers shout "I wish I'd never been born" at their parents, but it's kind of weird to realize that it was a realistic possibility. Life would have gone on without me - my parents would have adopted a different kid, and the world would be about the same. But I think being older gives you perspective - my life hasn't been bliss, but I can't say "I wish I'd never been born". (Of course, how would I know, if I hadn't been born... a paradox.)

There's always adoption, but I think as long as you care about your child and try to be a decent parent, you'll be ahead of a shocking number of parents, sadly enough. And I doubt your kid would seriously "wish I'd never been born", at least once he or she made it past the teen years.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:45 PM

LW

How do you get out of bed in the morning?

Thursday, April 17, 2008 07:48 PM

Oh, dear

Oh, Lawdy. You shouldn't have a kid. Life requires a modicum of hope and optimism and, well, gumption. "Joyful participation in the sorrows of the world," as someone -- a Buddhist, I think -- said. If you're this passive now, then that wouldn't bode well at all for the kid. Your despair seems to be a decision rather than a mood. A drag, y'know? Then again -- and I have witnessed this, it's fascinating -- a vital new soul could completely trump your milquetoast approach to life, could surprise you like a flower shooting up through concrete. You never know.

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