no doubt that will be controversial all around too.

Remember the ad for that Sanitary Napkin?

"Wings, the darn thing's got WINGS!"

In this area, variety is truly the spice of life! As a fan of "wizard sleeves," I believe they provide a little something extra during intercourse.

You know . . . if a teenage girl dies in a tragic car accident . . . perhaps her vagina could be donated to a more mature individual. Or, if after exhaustive study to find the PERFECT™ vagina, perhaps it could be cloned in laboratory facilities so that all could benefit.

Then again, shy-of-the-knife ladies could allow their husbands to frequent surrogate vaginas . . . usually available at titty bars and crack cocaine neighborhoods . . .

Rich people have waaaay too much goddamn money.

Want to cure rich fucknuts from obsessing about their vaginas?

Put them all up against a goddamn wall and shoot them.

Seriously.

I can't wait till those oppressed women in the middle east catch up to our progressive attitudes towards women!

Wow, that's a new one on me (or, rather, not actually ON me). Although I can recall experiencing "strips of bacon" in the past.

Really, I don't mind at all, it's all window dressing. But I do know from talking with real guys, in a real guy way, that some fellas just can't get turned on if they consider the appearence of their lover's vajayjay repulsive. And if a guy can't get it up, well, he just can't.

I guess those guys will just have to keep searching the world over until they find women with equipment that appeals to them, and who are willing to put up them as well.

a cure for "old guy butt"??

To quote Dorothy Parker, what fresh hell is this?

I'm a mother in my 40s, and I have never even heard of this stuff.

Every man I have ever had sex with has eagerly spent as much time as he could getting to know my vagina. They always want to look, too. I've never dated a man who wasn't pleased with my vagina just as it is. And I really doubt my vagina's anything special, I assume it's like anyone else's.

This is an insidious idea, and I hope it doesn't become a trend. Women are already making themselves sick to conform to non-existent ideals.

Ladies, straight men like vaginas. No, actually, they love them. They can't get enough of them. And that's a good thing!

And any man who posts anything crude, nasty or insulting about vaginas here hasn't seen one in awhile. Trust me on this.

That good or bad, doctors are bad if they don't scold their own patients by lambasting them that this is the same thing as Female Genital Mutilation.

Uh ok, roger that.

zorkna i think the point is why the fuck should anyone be worrying about their labias unless there is a medical necessity. i think the point is that women already feel pressure to be beautiful, thin, big boobed and big lipped but now we have to worry about how our vaginas look too? and yeah, wanting your vajayjay to look like a 13 year olds is a little twisted and disturbing.

and WTF is wizard sleeves???

great - a slang for large hanging labias. very nice.

...are still shockingly recent, and the findings of these studies are not reflected in textbooks used to teach medical students. That considered, these procedures seem ill-advised.

Obviously there are cases, such as those mentioned by KH, where the patient can justify undergoing a risky procedure. But plastic surgeons operating on a woman that is undergoing the procedure for cosmetic purposes need to be upfront with the fact that no one knows for sure how this will affect the function and sensitivity of the genitals. Of course, they won't do that when there is money to be made.

Then you won't mind never seeing it again. I'm all about win-win solutions.

At least they aren't routinely mangling two thirds of girls' genitals for aesthetic or religious reasons. This is one area that girls, in this country, are far luckier than boys. At least you get the choice of having cosmetic surgery when you can make your own decision rather than having it before the umbilical is even cut.

Borat: Great! When I uh, buy my wife, at the start she was uh, cook good, her vazhïn work well, and she strong on plow. But after three years when she was fifteen, then she become weak, her voice become deep: BORAT BORAT, eh, she receive hair on chest, and vazhïn hang like sleeve of wizard.

Car Dealership owner: Huh-Jesus...

Borat: How do I know that this will not happen with the car?

Car Dealership owner: Chevrolette guarantees you that with a warranty.

So, not only does my twat have to be free of hair and smell like flowers or whatever, but now it has to be "elegant"? Great. Does it need a bow tie? A nice evening clutch? Swarovski crystals? Yeesh.

This seems really straightforward. An adult person is allowed to have elective cosmetic surgery, right? Regardless of what we might think about them, it is their body, and their choice.

I personally think that the money would be better spent on a therapist to work on self-image, but again, not my choice.

You're right that this procedure is in some ways comparable to male circumcision-- a major difference being that with a labiaplasty the patient is able to give consent herself.

Another big difference, however, lies in the point I made above. Anatomical studies of male genital structures are very advanced, and doctors have a good understanding of how the procedure will affect the patient. The same is not true for female patients. Only very recently were the nerves in the clitoris mapped out, for instance. Doctors who have no real comprehensive understanding of female genital anatomy (which would be, in truth, most doctors) are performing this surgery. Because of this, there is no way for the patient to know what she's in for, or to make an informed decision.