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Friday, July 10, 2009 12:00 AM

Was "marry granddaughter" on his bucket list?

Odd reports emerge that Morgan Freeman has unlikely fiance

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Friday, July 10, 2009 08:01 PM

Except, of course, in the strange case of Mary Kay LeTourneau, who's now been married since 2005 to her previous "victim."

Nope. Villi had pubes. He was much larger than the other sixth graders and was already shaving.

Still gross and wrong and sick etc., but he "matured early" as people of Samoan decent commonly do.

(WHY do I remember this shit? IDEK.)

Friday, July 10, 2009 08:42 PM

Ewwwww

Too gross. I love Morgan Freeman as an actor but I am pretty grossed out by this story. Probably more grossed out than I was by the Woody Allen/Soon Yi Previn hookup.

That the affair began when she was 17 and he 62 makes me think of that gross subplot of "Love in the Time of Cholera."

Ahh. Well, whatever.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:19 PM

Stop Hating on Woody Allen

Those of you who hate Woody are mistaking his onscreen persona for his true self. He has written, directed, and performed in movies that for decades have entertained and enriched people's lives. His films are full of acceptance and love. He is in many ways a phenomenal human being.

Now, it is strange to marry your second wife's adopted daughter, but it is not the same thing as marrying your own daughter. Anyway, if anyone has a right to complain about the marriage, it's Soon Yi, and I don't hear her complaining.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 08:32 AM

The way BS readers think

Two adult people (27 and 72-year-old) are having a relationship.

The man prefers to be with a woman younger and prettier than women their age.

The woman prefers to be with a man older and richer than men their age.

(Both could be described as predators. The older man is predator of youth. The younger woman is predator of wealth, fame and status. But in Broadsheet, man= predator, woman=victim)

Being consensual adults, nobody should have to say anything. But this is BS when people pretend to be liberal and tolerant, but it is only liberal and tolerant of the choices they approve.

As a result, there is no basic difference with right-wing Christian women. Christian women want the sexuality of others to conform to a certain standard (old-fashioned modesty). Broadsheet readers want the sexuality of others to conform to a diferent standard (feminist ideas). The standards are different, but the attitude is the same.

Christian women have it easier. They say: this is against moral, against good customs, against God, against the Bible and so on and so forth. So they can deffend their position well.

Broadsheet readers have it much harder. They have advocated sexual liberation, everything goes. How can they rail against consensual sex? The only non-allowed sexual relationship in a feminist worldview is the abusive one. So the only way is to define the relationship as an abusive one. This implies defining the older man as a predator and the woman as a victim so they can define the situation as abuse.

Of course, this is ridiculous. The young woman is satisfied with this relationship and can end the relationship wherever she wants. She does not do that becuase she is OK with the relationship. This is consensual sex. She is not a victim. She does not want to be rescued by the feminist version of the Salvation Army.

In reality, these are only rationalizations. The harshness this relationship is judged with is because older women want older men to be with them, instead of with younger women. So this struck a nerve between BS readers who are mostly mature and dissatisfied with their sexual life (as many of them has confessed)

But no shaming tactic can change biology. If he can, a man will choose a younger woman instead of an older one. If she can, a woman will choose a wealthier man instead of an ordinary one. So BS spinsters can rail against this and this and be outraged, but, at the end of the day, they are alone and Morgan Freeman is with the woman she wants. Live and let live.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:26 AM

Change is timeless.

Y'know you might have something here. While the circumstances between Freeman, Allen and their consorts/bonded mates are these days kinda odd and stand very starkly against the background of what we nowadays call "normal" (lets all snigger at the other's sexuality now, how charmingly simian), I wonder if there isn't a long precedent from our earliest existence as social creatures where a young female willingly parnters with a male of obvious status and even prestige, and seeing that beyond the age difference love can be boundless...or is that too corny.

Our current age-cohort lockstep in mating is something of an abberation itself if you consider most human history, due largely I think to the relatively modern idea of public education for kids and the extension of adolescence, and no doubt some sex-a-phobic interpretations of the church fathers most sex-negative concepts...thank goodness Freeman and Allen and their charming, intelligent and dare I say it sophisticated mates are beyond all that hokey religion stuff, eh? . If we are to believe the visionary bio-engineers, our increased lifespans, cosmetic surgery, hormonal treatment and who knows what else is going to make the classical notion of only marrying someone your own age an archaic and almost quait expression of faith in some airy fairy ideal of the past...like bronze age pastoralists insistence on male dominance...geeeze, how backwards can humans be?

As for the "bucket list" comment. What an "ageist" thing to say? Did they teach you that in some school or other?

Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:54 PM

@pilotlight

It would be wonderful if their connection could just be a May/December one, which would actually make it seem sort of beautiful : ). I think this is the case, almost never, however. But a couple of things: 1) I believe that guys go for younger girls, or "Asians," because they were molested by their mothers as infants, used as anti-depressants, stimulants, by them, which has made them so very wary of being in situations with empowered, older women, with anyone but girls of the "girly." So I appreciate you bringing up the high amount of sexual abuse that goes on, your advancement of the likely truth that the majority of children today still are subject to incestual "handling," cruelty, only I think boys are abused just as often as girls are, but it is less recognized because reporting it would not so much work to support feminist assails against men/ostensible male enfranchisement/empowerment, and because no guy wants to talk about how their mommy fondled them, knowing this could not but make them feel even more shamefully unmanly. 2) We (i.e., guys) are tired of this: at every turn guys are doing wrong--Yuck! Stop it. We're drained. Can no longer get the outrage "up." So instead peace to one is all, is about all I can muster right now. If we could get involved in helping Freeman desire older woman more, this probably would be for the best, but I would insist that it be done with huge respect for this really wonderful guy. Not this kind of hateful shit, thank you.

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