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Monday, June 8, 2009 12:00 AM

Underestimating Hillary

How Clinton went from controversial runner-up to feminist superhero

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Monday, June 8, 2009 07:07 AM

Hillary

It was a very bad mistake for anyone to choose Obama over Senator Clinton. She is real. He is not.

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:13 AM

Hillary

I didnt use to like Hillary, then Michelle came along.

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:14 AM

HillDawg for President!

I still think Hillary would have been a better President than Obama. She is more to the left, has a backbone, was used to the job already, also has a love for reality/data based policy.

And she doesn't seem to like the Bush/Obama anti-human/civil rights policies they so lovingly protect.

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:24 AM

NOT UNTIL . . .

Salon does an article about her BOOTAY, that ONION, her BUM, that fine piece of midwestern AS I was saying . . . I am certain that her bottom is every bit as NEWSWORTHY as Michelle Obama's.

Please include a slide show this time.

Hillary isn't just for Feminists anymore.

I shall SIT at the edge of my SEAT, in RAPT, antici . . .

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:28 AM

My dear Slaan,

"I still think Hillary would have been a better President than Obama."

You got that right.

Obama is SO skinny, that every time he sits down, he has to get up to answer the door.

/rimshot

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:29 AM

Superhero is right

She totally protects us, and a million dead Iraqis are the proof.

Also? She will never take away our guns. What feminist wouldn’t be enthralled?

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:37 AM

A personal request.

You know that graphic with Rush Limbaugh's ass with his face peering up at us between those pantalooned thighs?

Could you whip up one like that for Hillary's article?

Please?

I would be ever so grateful.

I am sure I wouldn't be the only one.

Monday, June 8, 2009 07:40 AM

Divisive dynasty?

What dynasty? Bill Clinton comes from the humblest of roots in a small state. He served two terms. Two terms is a dynasty? In what way?

As far as irritation and fury at "hardball tactics", I'll first say that politics is analogous to a contact sport. If you get on the field, you're gonna get hit. But the second thing I don't get with O-followers that were so ready to make these charges on Clinton's tactics was their (still continuing) blindness to the very hardball if not downright Chicago-sleaze tactics of the Obama campaign. Whatever. Some folks are easily fooled. You wanted Obama, you got Obama. Translated, that means you wanted Obama's "liberal" hope and change, but what you wound up with is a guy who gives a good speech and who brings all of the bad of Bill Clinton's circle of neo-liberal DLC advisers and DC insiders with none of the actual commitment to principle that seems to be a part of Hillary's core makeup. Can you say string of broken promises? Sure you can!

"As first lady and later as the first serious female presidential candidate, she put on and discarded so many personas that it was hard to figure out who she really was"

Um...no. The only way that could be true is if you allowed yourself to be led around by the "Yes, we can (but you'll find out later that we won't") BS of the Obama campaign and its own (aforementioned) hardball tactics. (Who inserted race into the campaign? Hint: Not HRC.)

From the firing of Bush's well-liked but compromised global AIDS coordinator, Mark Dybul, to challenging Hamid Karzhai on an odious Aghanistan law severely restricting women's rights, Clinton has been every inch the leader who once proclaimed, in 1995, that "women's rights are human rights." Those who missed her passionate defense of abortion at a Washington, DC, hearing back in April owe it to themselves to watch.

It would have been better if you'd un-hypnotized yourself, recognized what a strong woman and leader she is back when it mattered and voted for her instead. I don't think we'd be throwing trillions at the banks while help for actual homeowners lags, and I doubt we'd be taking the word of big healthcare and insurance companies about cutting costs on the one hand while they work to undermine the push for true universal healthcare (not health insurance) on the other.

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Before I posted this, I couldn't help but be amazed at the asinine comment of JC Miller on the "million dead Iraqi" thing. Does this dimwit lay the entire Iraq War at the feet of HRC? Does he/she not know that Obama wasn't around when the vote for the AUMF took place and has said that if he had been, he didn't know how he would have voted? (I think given Obama's track record on state secrets, FISA, warrentless detention without trial for indefinite terms up to forever, how he would have voted had he been in the senate is not hard to figure out.) Does JC not know about the escalation of the AfPak war and the toll on civilians in terms of lost lives and the displacement of refugees? Gimme an 'effin break!

Monday, June 8, 2009 08:05 AM

The National Rorschach Test

It's sad that the dynamic of "if you like Hillary, you hate Obama" and vice versa still seems to prevail.

That said, I'd also like to remind y'all about the unbelievable level of sleazy sexist sneers and attacks on then-Senator Clinton during the presidential campaign. She never got a break, yet she fought then-Senator Obama nearly to a draw. And even THAT was cause for pundit and Salon reader rage - "why doesn't she just drop out?!?"

Nobody could believe that Hillary Clinton could ever work with Barack Obama. Nobody could imagine that she wouldn't, Cheney-like, labor ceaselessly in the shadows to stab Mr. Obama in the back, whether she was part of his administration or not.

Methinks there's a lot of projection going on in "analyses" of Secretary of State Clinton. YOU can't figure out Hillary Clinton because she's mature, well-balanced, realistic, understands how politics works, and can work it to get things done.

Frankly, that's not HER fault.

Monday, June 8, 2009 08:25 AM

"changing personalities"

You say that she admits to fury and irritation "at Clinton's hardball tactics and her shifting personality.", anyone who starts with these notions obviously was a victim of the media and the blog boyz mentality.

I cannot even read an alleged "Hillary supporter" who holds these notions that are steeped in sexism and ignorance.

That was not Hillary, that was the Hillary projected for your enjoyment by the MSNBC, Huffington, TPM and D Kos cheerleaders. "bristling", "fury" and irritation yes, somehow those are the emotions you were supposed to have at a woman doing her job of campaigning and being a politician. When you change that language I will consider reading this chick.

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