is how at a disadvantage those who support choice are, because we are really the ones who are pro-life, and so do not automatically turn to protecting ourselves with guns and such. Those providing health care, those working to give support to people in pain, are the ones who are nurturing life, and such people find it hard to think in terms of violence, even in self-defense. The philosopher Hegel wrote of the idea of "the inverted world"--where what seems to be the case is really the opposite of the reality. The ones who seem to themselves to be on the side of life are really agents of its opposite. I sometimes think of a sort of Twilight Zone episode where those attacking the clinics find themselves after death realizing the truth: that people like Tiller were in reality the Christ figures, and these so called followers of Jesus were in facts the ones crucifying him.

She watched him leave and later found pictures of him online

So why not publish his name and web pictures to the world? Why isn't this site linked in the article? If law enforcement is unresponsive, then these people need to be exposed before they commit horrific crimes in some other way. Let them know that there are millions of people who are watching, that they are not protected in their shadow world, and that if they "need to know where you live" then they will have to bear the world knowing where they live. These maggots abhor sunshine, so why not turn it on full bore?

Dr Tiller's assassination with a pro-life acquaintance online. I know I won't change his mind (nor he mine) on abortion. But I am discussing with him the rhetoric of the RTH movement, and how it creates people like Tiller's assassin.

My RTL acquaintance insists "we are appalled by the violence" "we don't advocate violence" "this isn't our doing" etc. And I am forced to remind him that the RTL movement set the tone. By dehumanizing both women seeking to terminate an unwanted pregnancy and doctors who perform abortions, the RTL has given permission to kill.

Calling their movement pro life is certainly a misnomer. When you publicly advocate for the death of another regardless of what justifications that you create, this is not a pro life stance. Daisy pointed out over at Feministe, that not even the mafia murders people in churches and this I believe is a particularly telling statement regarding the threat that they present to law abiding citizens. We cannot afford to ignore these fringe groups any longer. It is time to drag them kicking and screaming into the year 2009.

I further believe that it is time that we start acknowledging the danger of hate speech. These fringe lunatics are emboldened each day by the likes of O'Reilly, Hannit and Beck. They incite violence with their hateful rhetoric. Fox news further needs to be held accountable for giving these men a large platform from which to preach their propaganda of hate. Though they are claiming that Tillers death is the responsibility of one man in truth the people that publicly advocated violence against him are just as responsible as if they had loaded the gun themselves.

The so-called "pro-life movement" is an anti-American, subversive movement that uses domestic terrorism to promote its agenda. No doubt there are some who believe themselves to be innocently expressing their religious belief, just as there are no doubt Muslim Americans who sincerely believe giving money to Hamas will honor their religious obligation. The weak, equivocating "condemnations" being issues today all have a single demand: that the Obama administration not use this murder for "political gain" - no, the "pro-lifers" want that all to themselves; every announcement is a veiled reminder that they can not only murder anyone they choose, but that they will escape blame for their offense as well. They all say, "We abhor this crime," but go on to remind us that as long as abortion continues, there will be more terrorism from their side of the debate. Anti-American "pro-lifers" should not be allowed to use the First Amendment to shield their criminal behavior. Their freedom to exercise their religious beliefs does not include the freedom to practice murder and terror.

She watched him leave and later found pictures of him online

So why not publish his name and web pictures to the world? Why isn't this site linked in the article? If law enforcement is unresponsive, then these people need to be exposed before they commit horrific crimes in some other way. Let them know that there are millions of people who are watching, that they are not protected in their shadow world, and that if they "need to know where you live" then they will have to bear the world knowing where they live. These maggots abhor sunshine, so why not turn it on full bore?

Exactly! But -- before you do all that, document, document, document.

Don't just publish the website link -- copy all the pages that are there, so the creeps can't get away with scrubbing off all the evidence.

Make sure you document -- and save, preferably among many friends -- the evidence, both online and physical.

THEN publish, and dare them to either sue you or go away. They won't want to face a lawsuit because that turns a klieg light on them.

The pro-lifers have had no argument besides the emotional argument for decades. It was President Reagan who equated legal abortion to the Holocaust. Is it any wonder that this violence occurs? Of course the pro-lifers are usually in no way concerned for babies. There is no shortage of children who need adoption. It's all about controlling women and sexuality, making pregnancy 'god's punishment' for women having sex.

Couple of weeks back when the Department of Homeland Security's report on potential domestic terror activities surfaced, the right wing went totally friggin' berserk when Christian fundamentalists, survivalist nutcases and the like were profiled as possible threats.

Right wing commentators nearly caused a riot racing to their microphones to be the first to complain about an ominous new threat of governmental surveillance of upstanding Us citizens. You'd a thunk Obama rather than Bush had commissioned the study.

In spite of the fact that over the past 30 years virtually all of the most egregious example of organized internal violence have come from the right (from Oklahoma City to abortion clinic bombings to assassinations of doctors) the dominant theme of the Right is that the godless forces of secularism and evolution are a threat to the American way of life, American exceptionalism, our freedoms, marriage, the family and all of the other sacred institutions so dear to the heart of the hegemonic Right.