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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:00 AM

Remembering Marilyn Chambers

The adult movie queen and Ivory Snow model, who died on Sunday, was the the ultimate madonna/whore of her era.

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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:55 AM

Wait a minute

So porn is ok and admirable when you want it to be, but deplorable and degrading other times when it serves your purposes?

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:18 AM

Ever hear of Hugh Hefner?

It was Playboy that pioneered the "girl next door" as porn model, with Janet Pilgrim (real name "Charlaine Edith Karalusnot). That was back in 1955.

At any rate, sorry to hear about Marilyn Chambers' death. I hope it was natural causes, and that she died peacefully.

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:21 AM

@ anticleon

It can be either, or both, or neither. Williams is having a response to one performer here, contrasting her with today's prefab porn bunnies. That you assume she has a doctrinaire response to porn is your presumption -- it is nowhere in her writing.

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:23 AM

How sad

How sad that a woman dies this young, and how sad that porn stars are the heroines of today's twisted version of feminism .

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:26 AM

We can remember a porn star but not an 8 year old girl stuffed in a suitcase

In the news this morning:

Police: Child found in submerged luggage may have been raped

(CNN) -- A Sunday school teacher accused of killing a Tracy, California girl may also have raped the 8-year-old, authorities say.

Melissa Huckaby, expected to be arraigned Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET in the death of Sandra Cantu, will face additional charges, including rape, police told CNN.

"When she was booked, she was booked on charges of kidnapping and murder," Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman said on "Larry King Live" on Monday night. "And we're informed by the district attorney that she'll be charged with abduction, murder, rape with a foreign object and lewd and lascivious acts with a child."

Sandra's body was found April 6, stuffed into a suitcase and submerged in a pond at a dairy farm. Huckaby, also of Tracy, California, was arrested on April 10 after questioning by police.

(Original articles here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/14/california.slain.girl/index.html and here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/14/california.slain.girl/index.html)

Oddly, this is the first mention I've seen of it on either Salon.com or OpenSalon.com. Where's the outrage? I wonder why this isn't even getting a mention? Its national news, reported by an internationally recognized news agency, and nary a peep.

What's different about this case? Why isn't it making the news? A child was murdered? Nope, sadly that happens all too frequently. The body stuffed in a suitcase and dropped in a pond? Nope, that's not too unusual. That the girl was only 8 years old when she was murdered? Nah, seen that. How about she was was raped and sexually molested? Uh-uh. Nope, that's not it either. So what is it exactly about this case that nobody wants to talk about?

Could it be that her alleged killer is a woman? A Sunday-school teacher? A "loving" mother of a 5-year old daughter of her own? According to the article, the kids were "good friends" and played together often.

Wow. I guess nobody saw that coming.

I'm sure her neighbors will say things like "she was always so quiet and kept to herself" and "I saw her just the other day, she seemed so ordinary".

Well, at least the little girl can take comfort in the fact that she wasn't raped and murdered by a great big hairy man. Nope, she was killed lovingly, at the hands of a woman, who instead of raping her with a vile nasty penis, used a kinder, gentler more-feminine object to abuse her little body with. And when she was through raping and killing her, she stuffed her in a suitcase-- probably a Gucci bag-- and wrapped it with a little pink ribbon, tied in a neat little bow. I wonder if she sent a nice little Hallmark "thank you" card to her mom?

I am absolutely positive that if the person alleged to have killed Sandra was a man, this would be front page news, above the fold. The "feminists" would be out in droves droning on about how its yet more evidence that men are scum, and how crimes committed by women aren't the same, and how the killer should get a lighter sentence because she's obviously a "troubled woman" and all. Probably "battered" too, by a man of course, there's always a man.

I was extremely saddened and horrified to hear about the case, about the little girl-- Sandra-- who had been raped and murdered and stuffed into a suitcase. It doesn't matter who did it, it was a horrible, despicable and cowardly act. People who prey on children do not deserve life, in my opinion. Instead they should receive the slowest and most excruciatingly painful death possible. And the knowledge that their names shall be forever stricken from the rolls of humanity. Erased and forgotten.

My own opinion about the crime is that somehow Huckaby seriously hurt or killed Sandra, perhaps even accidently, and then decided to make it look like a child predator had had his way with her. Which, perhaps if the body had gone undiscovered just a little bit longer, is exactly what would have happened. And then this murder would have gone down as another random, unsolved murder-- committed by an evil man-- since that's what society expects. And Huckaby who, since she's a woman, would have been above suspicion, and then free to continue teaching Sunday-school classes, free to continue being a Mom, free to wander around the community, and free to breath the same air as you and me.

But then again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe she's just mean.

I'd like to leave you with some questions-- which I ask in sincerity-- what are the warning signs of a female child molestor or child murderer? Where do they hide? When do they strike? How do you know who to be afraid of?

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:29 AM

BTW, Marilyn was pretty cool too.

She was one of my fantasy women growing up. I'm sorry to hear she's gone.

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:34 AM

Mr. E- try the Google. It's on the Internets....

http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/us/2009/04/13/D97HGDDG1_girl_in_suitcase/index.html

Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:44 AM

@ Mr. E

"Oddly, this is the first mention I've seen of it on either Salon.com or OpenSalon.com. Where's the outrage?"

There's only SO MUCH outrage to go around, you know. You think it's a limitless resource or something?

See the three posts about the evil conspiracy at Amazon to fuck over their gay-reading market. That's where "the outrage" was for the past week.

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