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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:00 AM

The economy is a feminist issue

Why aren't more women writing about the financial meltdown?

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:39 PM

the problem is that money doesn't have a gender

yes there are related issues which do but the lack of a direct gender angle lessens the intensity of the interest and focus

Friday, February 20, 2009 12:48 PM

the Women's Movement Forgot Economic Issues Decades Ago

Women aren't writing about the meltdown, in part, because the women's movement has been ignoring economic issues for decades. Except for the occasional article on glass ceilings, there has been diminishing attention to the economic issues that face the mass of women in the population for many years. There used to be a lot of talk about how divorce created hardships for women and one occasionally hears paternalistic comments about poor women when something else is being discussed (e.g., abortion), but pocket book issues are long gone as a rallying point. It's a shame, because a lot of women from all economic backgrounds once were invested in feminism. When the movement became inward looking and more concerned about ingroup issues rather than the wages of secretaries and check-out clerks, they lost many of these women. The focus on abortion probably hasn't helped either (and I'm pro-choice). This is but one symptom of how "college boy/girl" liberalism has failed to reach people who should be its constituents, in part because it has paternalistically ignored them.

Friday, February 20, 2009 12:56 PM

Doctor, heal thyself

Look no further than Broadsheet. Feminism has been coopted and redefined as being about "celebrating" Michelle Obama's buttocks, or obsessing over Rihanna and other celebrities, or angsting about "sexual freedoms," or blathering about plastic surgery. It's all about the body and the baser uses thereof. Economics, philosophy, ethics, psychology, all that jazz...forget it! It's all about the boobs, butts, and vagina monologues now.

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:01 PM

what was the feminist saying...

..."The personal is political?"

We forgot that when it comes to money, it works the other way as well.

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:02 PM

The stimulus bill does take gender into account, Men need more help than women..

I think most people would generally agree that the stimulus should help those most in need. I believe the stimulus package does just this. According to the NYT, 82% off all job losses have befallen men. It's men who need the jobs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/business/06women.html?_r=1

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:05 PM

Most feminist writing

is really frivolous and vapid - geared toward generating outrage not awareness. Outrage pays. Most of the feminist blogosphere bears as much resemblance to feminism as right wing hate radio does to conservatism.

Pocket book issues are where the personal really is political. By making feminist discourse about solely about bodies we’ve gotten to a sad state where positive objectification is good- look at Michelle Obama’s arms- and negative objectification is bad – why should anyone be pressured into reconstructing their vagina!- we’ve accepted the premise of objectification and amplified it. (Or to take another example- criticism of starlet bad and sexist, defense of starlet good and feminist!) There a serious lack of critical thinking and a whole lot of knee jerk reactionary drivel.

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:28 PM

Don't Kid Yourself

You don't think universal healthcare is a feminist economic issue ? What about subsidized childcare...or the gender pay gap big lie ? From where I am sitting, feminism is very much still working to continue the male to female weath transfer in every way it can using intellectual dishonesty at every turn. Less and less people pay attention because when you have spokespersons like Amanda Marcotte, well it's hard to take them seriously. With the exception of choice...every feminist issue is about money.

PS Can't wait to see the analysis of the gender breakdown for who took out bad mortgages they cant pay back.

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:30 PM

Shrugs

Exquisite Koi, Leeandra Nolting, and CeliaInSF are absolutely correct, in my opinion. I strongly suggest Broadsheet hire some women who are capable of understanding the current economic situation and start publishing some serious articles on the subject. (Even Moe Tkacik could write intelligently, if verbosely, about economics when asked.) However, if that's not going to happen, start reading blogs other than Jezebel and Gawker for information that is non-pop culturally related. It was very nice that you finally discovered MichelleObamaWatch after Salon's almost fatal support of Erin Aubry Kaplan. Perhaps now, the writers at Broadsheet can venture a little more outside their comfort zone and discover female bloggers like Yves Smith at Nakedcapitalism.com , who more than holds her own when reporting on the economic crisis. Despite what the women here seem to believe, a feminist's world should encompass more than fashion, body issues and popular culture.

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:52 PM

healthcare reform is mostly off the radar at Salon

they're going for the pagehits...lifestyle articles and such

Friday, February 20, 2009 01:53 PM

Money is scary!

Seriously. I find that it's really hard to talk about economics with a lot of women. Not all women. Just most.

It's not that they're less intelligent or engaged when it comes to discussing politics, religion, the environment and technology. In the circles I run in, women are perfectly happy talking in terms I find arcane about computers and their innards ... or the human body and its innards.

But economics seems to freak a lot of women out. Even extremely bright women. Even women who know a good deal more than I do about, say, worm reproduction or the European Union refugee policy. I start talking about credit default swaps and their eyes glaze over. It's weird.

I come from a family of female MBAs and economists, so I am perfectly comfortable talking and reading about these subjects because they have always been discussed at the dinner table. But I'm getting it that I'm unusual.

Friday, February 20, 2009 02:02 PM

The answer is *not* to divert money from green jobs because they employ mostly men

... the answer is to get more women into those jobs. Ditto for infrastructure-construction jobs.

Come on, we need investment in green technology. We need to train solar panel installers. Just because they have historically been men does not mean we shouldn't pay to train people with tax dollars. It just means we should also train women.

Friday, February 20, 2009 02:03 PM

Emily Bazelon at Slate

http://www.slate.com/id/2211594/

Friday, February 20, 2009 02:03 PM

Emily Bazelon at Slate

http://www.slate.com/id/2211594/

Friday, February 20, 2009 02:15 PM

a californian

That is an excellent point!

Friday, February 20, 2009 02:49 PM

Hello?

Why the assumption that green jobs are only for men?

As for the "let's get over that" comment, why don't YOU write about it? You have a writing job and a forum!!!

Friday, February 20, 2009 03:01 PM

"Where has the feminist outrage been? The economic crisis is in every way a feminist issue, so why the near silence?"

Perhaps they're all too busy writing important articles about Michelle Obama's butt, or Gwyneth Paltrow's blog, or the current poster child for female empowerment... Nadia Suleman.

Looking for some outrage? Take a number and get in line. Maybe these feminists will have some free time to address economic issues once the Oscars are over.

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