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Thursday, January 8, 2009 12:00 AM

"The Real World" offers Transgenderism 101

MTV's reality dinosaur (finally!) gets a trans cast member. How painful is this going to be?

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Thursday, January 8, 2009 04:05 PM

if this season is anyhting like the preceding 18.....

....then the only question this edition of the Real World will answer is "who will end up having sex with the transgender chick?"

Thursday, January 8, 2009 04:27 PM

Pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseoh...

if this season is anyhting like the preceding 18 [...] then the only question this edition of the Real World will answer is "who will end up having sex with the transgender chick?"

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Please let it be the Mormon.

Thursday, January 8, 2009 04:54 PM

So is the dolphin trainer gay

or does he only train gay dolphins?

Thursday, January 8, 2009 05:47 PM

@kitchengirl

So what do you have against the trans girl?

Thursday, January 8, 2009 09:47 PM

Sorry

but that is an ugly dude.

I am all for men exploring their feminine side-- I do it myself, freely and proudly-- but the problem is that men who feel like this are shunted by society into changing their bodies.

I got news for you. Wanting to experience the full range of human feeling, emotion, sensuality, connection is not a female only trait.

Women have coopted it for themselves. Men stay silent, evil triumphs. So today, instead of a man openly wearing pantyhose in public because he likes the way the breeze feels on his legs, he is forced to either contort his mind into thinking he is a perv, or contort his body into becoming female-like.

All this is immensely heartrending and sad to me. Men are humans.

How much worse will it get in a few more generations, with all the men acting like impotent little John Wayne wannabe boy brats afraid of their own feelings, while the women around them indulge their every gender whim, acting and being completely free and whole humans while pissing loudly about how pathetic the men around them are?

Men are not bullies. Men are sensitive and delicate in ways women refuse to imagine. Women's egos are tied to women nurturing strong man behavior in the men around them. Strong man behavior is a mask, an act.

You show me women who support and nurture whole men, men willing to be more than play actors. It is rare to nonexistent.

Which is another reason I refuse to support any feminism. The whole thing is just a way to trap men into ever more limited roles, it is a way women expose their true power over the men and the society while demanding that men refuse to vocalize this reality.

As I say, men will NEVER be free of this UBIQUITOUS female repression if and until we men are capable of freeing ourselves through the ability to reproduce with as little input from females as females have now from men. Reproduction means true power. men are powerless slaves. nothing more.

Thursday, January 8, 2009 10:13 PM

In re Transgenderism

Yay for our side.

Friday, January 9, 2009 07:40 AM

Does Anyone Know

What the hell Brightstar is on about?

Friday, January 9, 2009 08:18 AM

Yo Brightstar

Check it: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28527841?gt1=43001

Aside from the unfortunate portmanteau, these things are apparently gaining popularity. You are not alone.

Friday, January 9, 2009 10:50 AM

I actually watched this last night

and this season is NOT like the previous 18 (or whatever) seasons. The show started the first season two decades ago with real 20-somethings interested in pursuing various creative professions -- not just wanna-be actors/models. The first few seasons were absolutely not about getting drunk and hooking up, they were about learning to live with diverse people in a new place. It seems like the creators wanted to return to the show's original roots this season though. There are no Barbie-like characters, none of them are tan, and only one of them seems interested in getting drunk. Most of them have creative interests and careers they want to pursue in NY -- they aren't just there to party and hook-up.

I'm not sure why the producers suddenly decided to scale back on the debauchery and make the show more serious again, but they seem to have gotten lucky, given the current economic woes and sober zeitgeist. This show is enormously popular and influential with young people, so Broadsheet should encourage any movement towards a serious exploration of youth culture, rather than the usual partying/puking/hooking up/fighting fest, rather than deriding it.

All the guys on the cast could tell the trans-girl was a guy except for the naive Mormon kid. None of the women could tell, which I thought was interesting.

Friday, January 9, 2009 11:57 AM

How about --

TRANSCENDING "gender" -- at least publicly?

Too much like learning to talk about things not exclusively concerned with sex and the bedroom?

Friday, January 9, 2009 10:42 PM

That manhater Kathy Lee Gifford

openly mocked men for wearing Comfilon.

I follow this topic closely on a Delphi forums site called "Legwear as Unisex Fashion" where Steve Katz reigns supreme while guys openly discuss the finer points (heh) of hosiery wearing.

Sadly, methinks man hater Gifford's reaction is typical of females. Yet ANOTHER way to control and limit men by mocking them.

Screw women. I'm fed up with the double talk, where women on here all profess to be OK with something, then go on and rake some other guy PRIVATELY or in some other context for exactly the same thing. Is that not called 'psychopathology'?

Saturday, January 10, 2009 08:51 AM

Kathy Lee Gifford a Man Hater?

The same Kathie Lee who is married to Frank Gifford? The Frank Gifford who cheated on her with an flight attendant? The one who forgave Frank Gifford for his publicly embarrassing affair?The same Kathie Lee who is almost weirdly obsessed with her son Cody, the one she named after Cleveland Browns offensive lineman Cody Risen? That Kathie Lee Gifford?

Brightstar is so funny. But not in a Ha-Ha kind of way.

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