I won't argue with you if you think cabdriver's analysis constituted an implied threat. To me, it constituted instead a fundamental misunderstanding of why men rape.

As for cdevlin's quote, it seems to jibe with what you're saying. I guess I'm missing your point on that one.

cdevlin addressed this issue on the first page in this exchange:

who knows?

In balance, access to a robot sex substitute like that, for the males so inclined, might wind up saving actual flesh and blood women a lot of trouble.

(But in the long run, it would probably demolish the guys.)

-- cabdriver

the on-balance thing...

To suggest the ability to buy fembots might save women from sexual assault is like saying if only the Catholic church would allow their clergy to marry then perhaps priests might stop sexually assaulting children.

-- cdevlin

This is the implied threat - "If men don't have access to robots they will rape real women." I have heard the same thing said too many times about prostitutes - "If men don't have access to prostitutes they will rape non-prostituted women." Do you not see the threat there? "Take away our access to prostituted women/sex robots and we will rape you."

Regarding my anecdotal friend - his girlfriend is pretty awesome. And they aren't that old. His problem was not "nice but shy," his problem was a frightening temper.

The point of the story was, if every woman you've ever met thinks you are an asshole, the problem might not lie with every woman you've ever met. And, that there is hope for people that have had a hard time creating lasting relationships.

Where does this idea come from? That men have the "right" to sexual access to women? That if a "perfectly nice guy" can't find a woman to have consensual sex with, then it's completely understandable if he goes to prostitutes or buys a doll or robot (or, as some insinuate, rapes women or children)?

really, do women have a right to a vibrator? who ever said it was a right?

And why is it women's fault if a guy can't get a date? Are all the women he's ever met to blame? Or could it possibly be something about the guy?

Let's get one thing straight. I had the same problem for a long time, so I understand the issue VISCERALLY.

The blame DOES lie with society (WOMEN, since women define society). IF there is something wrong about the guy, it is due to one of three or four things: he never was taught or encouraged to learn to be social, he was fed false information about what women seek in men, he has some flaw that he CAN help, he has some flaw or imperfection that he cannot help.

The FIRST two things are the fault of society (WOMEN, since women define society), the third is due to ignorance on his part or low esteem, which leads to his neglecting himself. The last item is somewhat to largely beyond his control, BUT if it were a woman with the flaw, she would be turning over tables pissed that the men are not beating a path to her door due to her OTHER charms.

It is FUNNY, women are taught all their lives what men seek out in women. Women are often naturally adept at being social. Women are encouraged to pursue those things that will maximize their exposure to men.

MEN do not have these things in life. The biggest and smartest naturally pick up on the cues women feed them. The best looking men hardly have to do anything but exist. Many other men pick up from their male friends as to how to act to gain female interest.

SHYER, quieter men, or men who tend to be naive (and thus swallow crap lies like "be nice") are shit out of luck. Thus they pick up the stink of death, with women avoiding them evermore, and the men becoming evermore bitter.

Men like this never even stand a chance. I know, I was one.

What finally saved me was my utter desperation, my going and picking up the hidden black books that explained how women think and what they react to, and then applying these principles to my social life.

It is a PITY women are so harsh and unforgiving when it comes to certain men who do not come prepackaged and ready to eat. But then nobody ever accused women of actually having any heart for men or for actually LIKING men.

Anecdotally: I have a friend who couldn't get dates. He was smart and OK looking and considered himself a "nice guy," but had low self esteem and a horrible temper that drove away all prospects. He, too, spent a lot of years blaming all women. But eventually he started going to a therapist who helped him deal with his temper & esteem. He started getting involved in volunteer and consulting work that really interested him, and now he's in his first real relationship.

RIGHTO, he was of no value to women as a commodity item. Women preferred the company of a womanizing douchebag to the company of a nice but shy fellow.

The guys who understand this trap are getting younger and younger, hence there are chicks like Likelife reporting that there ARE no more men looking for love or a relationship. Men are DONE with women, except for ha ha-s.

A female robot could not come fast enough. Packaged with enough sophisticated programming, she would be able to teach insipid young women just what is so lacking in their demeanor and how a woman SHOULD act towards a guy. Respect is what women WANT from guys, but I do not see it being handed back at the men.

Because most women treat their men like people

you cannot train someone AND treat them like a person. at core is deep disrespect for the other person.

Where does this idea come from? That men have the "right" to sexual access to women?

Fair enough. Men, like women, have a birthright to attempting to have a sex life, but not a birthright to actually getting one.

That if a "perfectly nice guy" can't find a woman to have consensual sex with, then it's completely understandable if he goes to prostitutes

A grey area. I support the right of women to be prostitutes legally, and thus men should have the right to use their services legally.

or buys a doll or robot

What's wrong with that? What's it to you? It's none of anyone's business if a person, man or woman, uses a sex toy.

(or, as some insinuate, rapes women or children)

That's a very serious accusation. Who here has made such a vile insinuation?