And to think that up until this year, I actually considered the left to be the good guys. Silly of me, huh?

*ahem*

Oh I highly doubt it. If it even came up at all they'd be digging up every boyfriend she'd ever had and implying she was a slut.

Fake-groping a cardboard cut out of an extremely powerful person? Oh lord who could possibly care?

Neither. The only explanation is that he was really, really drunk. There is no other reason for doing that, even to the real Hillary. Shudder.

How's that?

Does it make it right? No of course not. Should it be an excuse? No probably not. Is what he did fireable? Probably.

But you hire another 27-year old, put them under that kind of pressure, let them get drunk and that's what's going to happen. Across ANY generation.

But, as per usual, a bunch of people who are fully aware of this will go around berating a 27-year old (yes who should have known better) and pretending as if THEY never got drunk and did stupid things at a comparable age.

I'm sure Dee Dee Myers doesn't want us to go back and track down some of the things we've heard George Stephanopolous was doing at the "beer and pizza" meetings. And he was over 30.

I notice that the gynocracy didn't ask the opinions of any men here. What, men can't be feminists? That's so sexist.

We should work toward a world that's free of sexism, where a boy can dream of one day being a columnist for women's issues. Your blatant discrimination is only a step backward for civil rights.

I only hope that one day we can all join hands against your narrow-mindedness.

That Hillary Clinton was a victim of sexism during her campaign has become an article of faith amongst some of her supporters, but other than some random anecdotes, I've never seen a single shred of evidence to support it.

So Chris Mathews hates Hillary Clinton, some idiot yelled "iron my shirt" at an event, and you could buy Hillary nutcrackers at Spencers. Whoop de do. Remember Ed Muskie? John Edwards' $400 haircut? The crap that Hillary was subjected to has far more to do with the facts that she's 1) a Democrat and 2) her last name is Clinton than her gender.

Where were the memes that she couldn't serve as Commander in Chief to match the meme that Obama would have a hard time with white voters (pushed by the Clinton campaign) or latino voters (pushed by the Clinton campaign)?

Yeah, this was a stupid thing for Favreau to do, especially on camera. But the plural of anecdote is not data - try finding an actual sexist meme that was hurtful to Hillary during the primaries.

Once was not enough?

I see the beginnings of a novel--"The Wax Groper"--or an especially clever episode of "Law and Order."

Tacky.

I think Hillary's spokesman answered him brilliantly.

About groping Hillary.

I'm picturing some female speechwriter for a President-Elect Hillary Clinton "grabbing the crotch of a cardboard cutout of the male politician whom her boss had vanquished in the primary" who's now Secretary of State Barack Obama - and I'm honestly not seeing a controversy.

I mean, you definitely see less males as sex symbols than females as sex symbols in our culture, so it might stand out a bit more as that. It would probably a be a bit more of, "Wow, a white woman thinks Barack Obama's hot." But I honestly don't see this sexual-subjugation-by-gender stuff coming out of it.

Just some jackassery, either way, IMHO. Full disclaimer, I'm a guy; but that's what I see.

Is that because no bodily fluids were exchanged, and no barely-possible physical acts were involved?

Is there some way I can screen-capture all of this, and save it for the future inevitability of a Republican campaign aide being photgraphically captured in a similar pose? Because in that instance, the outrage will of course be unqualified, unrelenting, and uncontainable.

By the way, I find it curiously interesting that this story has gotten enough play on the 'net, that even the studiously pro-Obama Salon is discussing it. I haven't seen a whisper of this story in the MSM; have I missed it?

"Senator Clinton is pleased to learn of Jon's obvious interest in the State Department, and is currently reviewing his application."

I sure did need a good laugh today - what a great response

I'm sorry, but Katharine is dreaming in her gender role reversal. I'd imagine that people would care even less if this were a 27yo girl on the Hillary-side. This is a picture of people drinking beer and horsing around on facebook. Boy or girl, anyone making a big deal of this is acting exactly like the overly-sensitive, bleeding-heart liberal, or perhaps the perpetually-enraged conservative that everyone expects you to be. This isn't "boys will be boys". It's "27 year olds will be 27 year olds".

Get a sense of humor (and a life), ladies. It's a cardboard cutout! And like another poster, I'd like citations on the Obama campaign's blatant sexism.

As for Jeanne Carstensen: "...Obama is facing the worse national crisis...?" Um, did you mean "worst?"

This bit of methinks-the-lady-doth-protest-too-much hand wringing brought to you by the column whose preceding entries were: Retail Porn and Is Anyone Getting Laid Anymore?

Thank you, please drive through.

it would be funnier if vince vaughn did it.

You're going to be doing alot of bending over backwards for the next few years. An anonymous cry of "iron my shirt" sent this page scrambling for its dog-eared copies of The Handmaiden's Tale, but the best we get from this is 'hard to work up some outrage' and a muted response from Clark-Flory, who can normally detect sexism at sub-atomic levels??

Um, Hillary's a sex symbol? Maybe if you're 70.

Maybe these kind of irrational reactions to a silly, harmless, drunken act are part of the reason nobody's getting laid anymore, ladies.

deserves whatever abuse they receive! I used to fake sodomize Joe Paterno and he wasn't my type at all! ITS CARDBOARD!