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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:00 AM

If Beyoncé were a boy ...

She'd be a total douche bag, judging by her new music video.

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 03:59 PM

Speaking of Freud

from wikipedia

Penis envy in Freudian psychoanalysis refers to the theorized reaction of a girl during her psychosexual development to the realization that she does not have a penis. Freud considered this realization a defining moment in the development of gender and sexual identity for women. According to Freud, the parallel reaction in boys to the realization that girls do not have a penis is castration anxiety. In contemporary culture, the term is sometimes used inexactly or metaphorically to refer to the idea that women wish they had a penis...

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 04:01 PM

Sasha Fierce? Sounds like...

Beyonce has been spending too much time watching Miss Tyra.

Didn't Cindy Lee Berryhill cover this better 20-some years ago in "Damn, I Wish I Was a Man"?

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 04:03 PM

Wow

I'm so glad I don't have to hang out with these people. Any chance to put down other women for not meeting their standards of what women should be, they're all over it.

"Feminists", my ass.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 04:21 PM

Like Svutlana Bootylicious song much better!

At least bootylicious had some grrrrrrrl in it. This girl as boy who treat girl better than boy song is lame and extreme neurotic. And why is Beyonce boy and not man? At least if Svutlana switch gender, she no regress at same times!

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 04:23 PM

who was putting down Beyonce?

I only saw critiques of the video and the song, not the woman.

Guess I didn't get the memo that I'm not allowed to be a feminist unless I wholeheartedly endorse every single action taken by every woman.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 04:38 PM

As a cop ...

... I'm primarily offended by "Sasha's" skin-tight, low-cut uniform and hip-slung gun belt. 'Cuz really, when we're on the job its all about how we look. Just try and draw that pistol, honey, and you'll end up blowing your own foot off.

Whenever a female cop appears in a music video she's vamping and swinging her hips and generally acting like a strippergram. So no points for originality here. Clearly if Beyonce were a boy she'd be an asshole. If she were a cop she'd be laughed off the force after giving the rest of us a bad name.

Sasha Fierce, my ass. Sasha Skank, maybe.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 04:40 PM

B's message gets lost in feminist interpretation

“I can't get riled up about it, Tracy, but there is something irksome here. Beyoncé, starting with her "Destiny's Child" days, has been all about rah-rah female empowerment: "Say My Name," "I'm a Survivor," "Don't ever get to thinkin'/ You're irreplaceable," etc. etc. “

- Sarah Hepola

Ever heard “Bills Bills Bills”? It’s about how girls should not date guys who can’t pay their bills. That song is also from B’s Destiny Child days.

“In her examination of gender roles, Destiny's favorite child opines on how much easier life would be if she were a man, because, apparently, she could be an inconsiderate, emotionally retarded douche. I guess that's what being a guy is about.”

- Mary Elizabeth Williams

No. She is singing about how she would be a better guy (then real guys) because she could empathize with females. She would have both the female and male perspective. She says she would be a better man.

The chorus:

If I were a boy

I think I could understand

How it feels to love a girl

I swear I’d be a better man.

I’d listen to her

Cause I know how it hurts

When you lose the one you wanted (wanted)

Cause he’s taken you for granted (granted)

And everything you had got destroyed

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 06:13 PM

This is news?

Beyonce has a 4 note range, and a fat lumpy ass. And she's as graceful as a walrus. She is the epitome of a no talent ho who sucked her way to the top.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 06:30 PM

thinking way too hard as usual

This is a pop song. It's not that bad a song, although I'm about 20 years too old for new mediocre pop songs to interest me.

Some of the specific criticisms are uncalled for. The point isn't that only boys can be cops - didn't you notice his partner is a woman at the end? The point is that she spends a day as him, and he happens to be a cop. As for the relationship dynamics, maybe in some other universe they don't exist anymore, but this is reality for a lot of people. I've read a few of the confessionals of the Broadsheet women, and yeah, I guess drunk texting men at 3 am is a newer, better way. Wow you people just keep finding new ways to stun me!

Who thought at any point that this was anything other than a complaint about the way men act? Who was surprised when it turned out that she's singing this because she's upset at being treated badly? Who would possibly mistake this for an empowerment anthem and be disappointed when it turned out not to be? Oh... you guys, that's who.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 06:40 PM

Feminist Chestnut

Could we please, once and for all, just drop the essentialist chestnut that women are just naturally better at relationships than men? Can women not see the bigotry inherent in this position? Women are just as capable of being insensitive and emotionally obtuse as men, just as capable of being thoughtless narcissists, etc.

And could we also not pretend that Beyonce in any way sings about or offers a blueprint for healthy romantic relationships? In her songs, it seems to me that romantic relationships are solely about power: either the man gets all of his needs met and treats the woman like crap, or the woman gets her needs met and treats the man like crap. Romantic relationships, as posited by Beyonce, are all about putting one over on one's partner, not about achieving loving and mutually supportive partnerships.

And don't even get me started on her self-commodification and promotion of the idea that men should trade goods for sex/women should trade sex for goods. Beyonce, as an artist, isn't a feminist. She a reactionary atavist.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008 08:20 PM

have to admit , I both loved the video and hated it; much like the real, stage performer beyonce'

the part that I loved best was when, with all those macho guy cops ready to defend her in the usual " defend the helpless lady"; man's man bullshit she[ acting the cop] showed that she didn't need a man to do her dirty work. I was like " YOU GO GRRRRL!" . by the way, rachael simmons, in her book called ' Odd Girl Out' [about girl behavior and bullying], had mentioned that black women are taught by their mothers to " keep it real". this while white suburban girls are taught to "act like the girly-girl princess".

the part I hated was when she's back with her boyfriend at home, all getting " high femmy'd up" with the makeup and all; she's accusing her boyfriend of not paying her any mind. I mean the usual, heterosexual woman style of " I need my man but his ass aint' there fo' me"; all over a fucking stupid diamond engagement ring that, she feels; " he's too cheap to buy to show his love fo' me."

but is this to be not expected from beyonce? a R&B performer whom, I hate to admit; plays up the high femme " princess" shit. thus playing right into the types of guy's hands that , in this video; she acts as if she does not like, but yet she likes to get attention from! and believe me, those asshole " gangsta" type super-macho men whom treat their women like shit; they all seem to love beyonce' as their perfect sex symbol!

as a transexual, MTF woman; I'll have to say that, pre-hormones, I never could understand this whole he said/she said thing! that and why so many of these high femme heterosexual women like beyonce' portrays; seem to like men whom pamper them with " love" in the form of jewelry, clothing, big screen TV's for their kids[ often " welfare" kids fathered by the non-commital jerks]. then those same men treat them like the "bitches & ho's" they feel they are, especially in front of their " homeboys" [ the same guys like my former dealers whom would intimidate me because I " acted girly" and stood with legs crossed, hand on hips often.]

this was one of the reasons, unlike them back then, I never cared for those girly-girl women like beyonce'; seeing them as the teasers/game players they really were. ellen de generes[ femmy-butch lesbian] was always more my type, and still is!

but now ,after the estrogen seems to have opened my mind and lined those neurons up, I can both understand better what jerk guys like this saw in the old me; as well as what it feels like to be the girl around dickheads like these kinds of guys! women get more emotional over relationships, something I always seemed to do, but now can easily bust into tears and agony over; like how to speak my opposing political opinion with a really awesome bi-lesbian girl[ biological] I just met online and want to stay friends with and see where that leads. watching this video surely made me realize that I do not miss my past life at all; all the confusing bullshit that went with it. at least girl to girl relationships seem to be more on the equal friendship level!

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