Palin is just passing through a glass ceiling that Ferraro shattered a quarter-century ago.

"But even among more reasonable Democrats, the Palin pick does create worries"

No it won't because reasonable Democrats can reasonably be counted on to vote Democratic. It's why they're Democrats. The PUMA types are not reasonable Democrats but personality cultists who care more about nursing their own feelings of resentment than the things HIllary has fought for all her life.

"No Way, No How, No McCain" was Hillary's call. How much clearer she could be, I don't know.

And further, to suggest women will vote on the base of gender rather than on the issues they support is anti-feminist and insulting. Some surely will, but to envision mass defections based on no evidence and, quite frankly, questionable reasoning is a waste of time. To suggest that it's putting an unqualified woman on the ticket as opposed to a fully qualified man might just be a good idea is also anti-feminist and irresponsible.

Can you please point to something that shows us Hillary wanted to be VP? All this talk about Obama "snubbing" her seems to presuppose she would have even been interested in accepting the VP slot. Can you please provide a link to where she expresses interest in being the VP? If not, please shut up.

H. Clinton let it be known in early June 2008 that she would accept the VP spot, but did not want to go through the vetting process of the selection unless Obama considered her a serious candidate.

That was why there was some friction before the convention about Clinton not being vetted, and the Obama camp was upset oven the Clinton camp not stomping down on this.

It totally undercuts Obama's message that he is the one who can bring great change to America (and the world) when Bama cannot handle the fact that his potential VP running mate would have been married to Billl Clinton.

I think Hillary could do great things while married to Bill, and she has been quite effective as a Senator doing so.

Get a backbone.

@elephantman

You have a lot of interesting ideas. Want to meet up sometime and discuss? I know a great little stall in the airport.

Strictly top, no scat.

-- Christopher Michael Neill

The beauty of that proposal is that I have no idea of what "top" or "scat" means. I presume that you do. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Quick, who said that?

For the answer:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/29/clinton-congratulates-palin/

God, McCain is trolling hard for former Clinton supporters. Well, this is one who isn't falling for it. Female does not equal feminist, okay? The next president will shape the supreme court. I don't have to love Obama--no way, no how, no McCain!

Wow, Salon! You just never quit with the Hillary stuff, do you?

"Should Obama have picked Hillary?"

Are you freaking kidding me?

Your editorial decisions are just plain ugly.

You are totally right. If Salon were a person, I'd think he/she were mentally imbalanced. Only someone with mental problems (or someone totally obsessed with no regard for readers) would be making these kinds of editorial decisions. ...Unless he/she were making them for Star Magazine. Is Salon on the verge of bankruptcy or something? Maybe they're trying for more advertising?

For a progressive site, I expected more coverage of Obama's fantastic speech. If there is an obsessive need on the part of the editors or writers to focus on Hillary Clinton, how about focusing on how all the puma stuff is made up or about how most of Clinton's supporters have moved to Obama?

Really, NO, Obama picked who he picked. Hillary said vote for him.

McCain picked an UNKNOWN woman (I am rather political and never heard of her) who is anti abortion, whose resume makes Obama's look ocean-deep, and as we are reminded over and over and over and over again, has 5 kids including 1 with Downs. (As if, that is her biggest selling point.)

She is to shore up the arch conservative base, and McCain has some dreamy vision that he will pick up disgruntled Hillary voters which is inane unless Hillary voters will vote for an arch conservative who supports teaching creationism in schools?

I doubt it...seriously.

But another article about ***sigh*** what if ***sigh*** Hillary....

Stop playing into the Republicans hands.

I guess.

...and also why I disengaged from Women's Studies. What a load of rubbish. Now I really understand what "concern troll" means!

Palin is an insulting choice, pure and simple. And Salon HAS to get over the primary results. McCain has just proven that he cares nothing about governance (thank you, Josh Marshall, for yet again having the best analysis!). This is a perfect opportunity for Hillary to show that she meant what she said so beautifully this past week. The world will write us off if we elect McCain.

You have a lot of interesting ideas. Want to meet up sometime and discuss? I know a great little stall in the airport.

Strictly top, no scat.

It was a brilliant move on their part, and I'm sure they were hoping it would start exactly this kind of self-doubting discussion.

But Democrats already made history twice this year. Palin is a response to OUR choices.

McCain selected her because Obama is so radically progressive as a biracial candidate for the presidency that the Republicans also needed to add someone who signified social progress and youth, or continue being painted as the stodgy, rich-white-male dominated party of the past. She boosts his oil-drilling platform and his base with conservative Christians, and panders to any Dem or Independent who still doesn't want to vote for Obama despite Hillary's request to do otherwise.

And Palin brings only an illusion of change. I love that she looks the progressive part because of her gender, but she's totally conservative, kinda cute, white, and positioned in a safe, non-threatening #2 spot - you know, like a support to the man? I bet they're patting themselves on the backs over that one over in GOP headquarters!

Smooth choice for them - but they're still gonna lose. Stop letting this stuff freak you out! Just tell your friends that it's great that the Democrats have now generated a campaign with two candidates who are beyond race-and-gender issues. Now we can concentrate on the real issues facing the country, and they are on the wrong side.

And if that doesn't work, remind everyone that she drinks skinny lattes and wears wicking athletic wear like a yuppie, fires people inappropriately when she has personal issues with them, cries, won't have time to mother her 5 children properly and be Veep at the same time, and she'll definitely crumble if McCain dies and she has to run the country.