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Friday, August 29, 2008 12:00 AM

Should Obama have picked Hillary?

Did the GOP just co-opt the Democrats' chance at making history? Sarah Palin, a conservative, antiabortion, pro-NRA Republican may just be the first woman in the White House.

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Friday, August 29, 2008 05:36 PM

My Apologies, Hyblaean

That move does make sense, and best of luck to you.

I had mistaken you for the kind of PUMA redraz is, apparently.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:33 PM

NO NO NO

Can we stop talking about Hillary.

Hillay would add to much psycho dram to the election. Bidenwas an excllent choice.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:29 PM

Bashing is being rinsed, repeated

You aren't doing anybody any favors by using sex-based terms like "shrill." In case you didn't get the memo, sexist-style Hillary bashing is over. It's been over since at least Tuesday night, but really it should have been over since last June. Actually, it should not have happened to begin with. Bashing her on issues and tactics? I'm there. Bashing her on any basis that sets her apart due to her sex/gender? Wrong.

It's far from over. It's just getting revved up again. The beauty of this VP pick.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:28 PM

Oops, forgot my link

Green party: http://www.gp.org/index.php

Cynthia McKinney / Rosa Clemente

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:28 PM

Wow!!!!!!!!!

Reading the posts here is absolutely hilarious. I knew the bots would be stirred up about Palin, but I never thought the panic would be this severe.

You guys are funny.....ROLF

If Obambi would have picked Hillary, or if Hillary would have won, this would not be happening. But the DNC, Obambi and his blogonautes were too stupid to see that.

PumaDemocrat

McCain/Palin08

Hillary Clinton 2012

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:25 PM

No, I am voting Green

and that does make all sorts of political sense to me :)

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:23 PM

hyblaean

Even if your direction makes no pragmatic sense, and is simply based on appeasing your whims? Uhm. Okay.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:23 PM

Beigey

Lets not underemphasise this..

The Democrap ticket is the STRONGEST it has been in at least twelve years and really, prior to the Bill Clinton era, in WELL over three decades.

We have a super charismatic bright cosmopolitan kid up front who is eager to make things happen, during a time when the right is perpetually at record lows. Behind him we have a super seasoned veteran who believes in family and has a super foreign policy background. Both seem like they belong togethers, brothers against the evil Bush system.

That is why the Republiscum are already siccing methhead inbreds on Obama before he is even out of the gate. They understand what they are potentially up against.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:22 PM

@jeb

Still working with half a brain, I see.

Let me spell it out for you:

Yes, that is the democratic platform. Except, this group has pledged to not vote for the party ticket - Obama/Biden.

This means that all those things on that list, the opposite thing happens, because John McCain/Sarah Palin win.

Any organization whose goal is to take an significant number of votes away from Obama is in effect delivering those votes to McCain. That's how it works.

PUMA is a false-flag, agent provocateur of the Republican party. This is their last, best hope of winning.

I just don't understand how someone can be so cynical after watching last night's speech that they cannot get behind our candidate.

PUMA truly is "post rational" as Rachel Maddow says.

PS: Elephantman, you are a Republican, right? I can feel bromance in the air. Wanna play Wii with our shirts off. You first. *bites lip*

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:19 PM

A party that is not

going in the direction I want, is not my party. I vote based on issues and not being heard is a major issue.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:18 PM

I'm just wondering...

Where are all of the sexist, racist right wing voters going to go now?

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:16 PM

@All-"yes-he-should-have"s

I get it, I understand the passion you feel for Hillary. God knows I'd be about as vocal about it had Hillary won the nomination and didn't pick Obama as the Veep.

So, I'll talk to you the same way you would've in that alternate universe: He didn't pick her, now stop picking the scab.

Because that's exactly what McCain wants you to do over his selection of Palin.

Let's not forget that the Democratic ticket is still massively strong, Hill or no Hill, and let's keep the eyes on the prize.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:09 PM

@Christopher Michael Neill

That platform doesn't look very Republican to me. PUMA's are not a "group". PUMA is a concept: Party Unity My A**. A lot of people seem to have formed various groups attempting to unify the people who feel that they no longer are willing to subscribe to party unity. Some are more rational than others. Some are almost certainly Republican plants. But a lot of them consiste of perfectly rational women who are just mad about how Clinton was treated during the primary. When the dust settles most of these organizations will have been destroyed by infighting because nobody agrees on what their goals should be, but a few might grow, like MoveOn, to become political players.

Meanwhile, telling people to shut up and go away and calling them sore losers is not very unifying.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:07 PM

Xrandadu

I do not consider the word 'shrill' to be sex informed.

I would call Kucinich's speech the other night shrill too. I would have called Hitler's speeches shrill.

Hillary is dreadfully full of herself and full of agitation and noise and represents nothing but her own best interests.

I do not endorse people, men or women, unless they believe a significant portion of the same things I believe.

This leaves me to endorse ONE person: Ron Paul.

Hillary believes in corporate fascism leavened with handout socialism. Hillary believes in being a whore for lobbying entities in Washington. Hillary believes the military-industrial complex with its endless bankruptcy inducing wars is just PEACHY.

All of this offends me TREMENDOUSLY and makes me VERY sorry I have to live among people who think all of this is perfectly FINE or who tolerate it because they think they do not deserve BETTER.

As I get older I realize more and more why I am a misanthrope.

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:03 PM

@ Christopher Michael Neill

Thanks for those links!!

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:01 PM

@elephantman

I'll make you my waitress, if you know what I mean.

*touches you inappropriately*

Friday, August 29, 2008 05:00 PM

Priceless

New suit for press conference $700

Haircut $12

Staring at my new VP nomination's ass through the whole press conference $PRICELESS

Friday, August 29, 2008 04:58 PM

Yes,

he should have

Friday, August 29, 2008 04:57 PM

@Brightstar

Brightstar: "Hillary is batshit shrill and felt severely entitled WHICH REPELLED MANY. Anyone supporting her is, well..."

You aren't doing anybody any favors by using sex-based terms like "shrill." In case you didn't get the memo, sexist-style Hillary bashing is over. It's been over since at least Tuesday night, but really it should have been over since last June. Actually, it should not have happened to begin with. Bashing her on issues and tactics? I'm there. Bashing her on any basis that sets her apart due to her sex/gender? Wrong.

It is especially important to keep this principle in mind when turning our attention on Palin. Palin isn't a bad VP choice because she was a mom, a beauty queen, or whatever the heck she was/is as a woman. Palin is a bad choice because she'd lead the United States down a bad path, along with McCain. She lacks the skills, the leadership, the caliber. As does McCain.

As for Hillary Clinton, if anything it's time to praise her. She came out strongly in favor of Barack Obama. And, compared to Palin, Hillary Clinton is hella better qualified.

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