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Friday, February 6, 2009 12:00 AM

"Please don't divorce us"

Bust out the Kleenex for a video protesting the case to invalidate 18,000 gay marriages in California.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 03:51 PM

Do share, firefly82.

I've always an ear for those who speak for Lady Liberty.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 03:44 PM

bigguns

Rather, you're siding with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

I always do.

I will resist the sore temptation to spend 2 pages explaining why many progressive interpretations of Christianity actually support marriage equality...unless you want to hear....

P.S. - I would have invited you to be the maid of honor when I became Mrs. Laurel962 if it weren't for that cad, MMM, who stole my true love from me!

Awww, I'm blushing.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 03:07 PM

firefly82!

This time, you're on my side! Rather, you're siding with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Cool, sister!!!

And well-rebutted.

P.S. - I would have invited you to be the maid of honor when I became Mrs. Laurel962 if it weren't for that cad, MMM, who stole my true love from me!

Sunday, February 8, 2009 02:41 PM

Besides which, Laurel and MMM

There are now younger gays who never insulted you or your marriages, and might just possibly have different views of the institution than their elders.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 02:35 PM

MMM

Straight married couples were deemed boring.

Oh, the injustice!

Sorry, nobody's Constitution guarantees the freedom from being deemed boring.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 02:33 PM

Laurel

The crybabies in the video all are living open, happy and safe lives as homosexuals. They can live with any partner they choose, and some of them are raising children, again openly and without prosecution or persecution. They can work at any job they qualify for, get health care and life insurance. They have always had full voting equality and citizenship.

Oh, so they should just be grateful that they're not being violently persecuted, right?

Except that in many states, they CAN'T do any of those things. Can't raise children. Can't work at any job they're qualified for. Can't get appropriate health care. Not even in California are homosexuals safe from the violence of bigotry--did you somehow manage not to hear about the lesbian targeted for gang rape in San Francisco?

And no, they don't have full citizenship. Not even in California anymore. Because full citizens have marriage rights.

(And the comparison of gay marriage to animals doing anything should've been put to bed long ago. Animals cannot communicate meaningful consent to much of anything. Sex, marriage, voting, etc.)

Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:02 AM

P.S. - Laurel962

You guessed at my marital aspiration and here it is: I want to marry you.

Your Hell.

My Heaven.

Alas, I fear you'll be marrying MMM, since he is also scarred by "breeder" and the two of you can comprehend each other's eternal pain.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:58 AM

@ laurel962

You are guilty of small, big, bad, and ugly sins:

The small: Parentheses signify quotation. I never called you a "hater."

The big: You are an admitted fornicator who moralizes about other people's crotches.

The bad: You are an admitted gossip, who gossips about queer people. Your tongue gorges with blood and you use that engorged appendage to thrust, without permission, into the intimate spaces of other people's lives. Your thrusting seems to be about their sex lives, but it's really about you imposing your will upon them: it's about power.

The ugly: You circumlocute. Good gravy, woman, if you had a point, you'd get to it.

BTW, you're not my special boogeywoman. You're an ordinary and miniscule monster. The world crawls with busybugs like you, forever trying to crawl, crablike, into other people's crotches.

Sunday, February 8, 2009 09:10 AM

You can't "strip" people of a right they never had, nor "divorce" a couple that was never legally married...

Those 18,000 marriages in California were never valid. I blame the California State Supreme Court for a very bad decision and interpretation of their state laws, for allowing it to go on as long as it did. It was a mistake, and the VOTERS AND CITIZENS of the State of California have rectified it.

You could, presumably, interpret anything from a biased State Supreme Court -- allowing dogs to vote, for example -- and the people would have to do something about it. That's why we have a democracy. Of course, many handwringing and weeping Salonistas would seriously prefer we had socialist oligarchy, where a few "correct-thinking" PC powerbrokers were allowed to determine the rights and lives of 97.5% of the population by the whims of the remaining 2.5%.

The crybabies in the video all are living open, happy and safe lives as homosexuals. They can live with any partner they choose, and some of them are raising children, again openly and without prosecution or persecution. They can work at any job they qualify for, get health care and life insurance. They have always had full voting equality and citizenship.

So the problem exactly....? Oh they want to co-opt the name "marriage" from the greater majority of society and apply it to gay relationships that it superficially resembles, despite this being an affront to the customs, morals and beliefs of the vast majority of others. Though I had to agree with MMM (even a stopped clock is right twice a day), where was all this worship of holy matrimony for decades while gays and lesbians bashed "breeders" and "stupid confining marriage" and claimed themselves free of such falsehoods?

California has civil unions and domestic partnership laws, far more so than other states. None of these people will be forcibly separated from their lovers or their offspring, none will be fired or demoted or lose their right to vote.

This is a non-issue, having been settled definitively AT THE POLLS, BY THE VOTERS...not just in California (the most liberal state, and not suprisingly, generally the most nutty) but in 44 out of 50 other states. Please don't quote me "Canada", where gay marriage was IMPOSED on public by another misguided Supreme Court -- Canadians were never given the right to vote on this issue, and most of them oppose it as much as Americans do.

And Bigguns -- thanks for your support. I am, it is well known, the ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD opposed to gay marriage, and my single vote (from Ohio, 2500 miles away) swung the entire state of California to vote against gay marriage. Or...NOT.

The fact that you think I am some sort of "anti-gay-marriage bogeyman" is more a sign that A. you are afraid to hear the truth, by screaming "hater!" to anybody you disagree with and B. you clearly have a horse in this race, and it would be more honest if you came clean (i.e., if you are a lesbian who would like to marry your partner).

Otherwise, flaming individuals you simply don't like or agree with -- but not bothering to articulate your own opinion pro or con -- is lazy, immature and despicable.

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