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When is gold digging prostitution? A college student explains how she landed her "sugar daddy."
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  • Tough one

    As an atheist, and hence obviously having no morals, my first reaction is that (assuming that her story is true), provided no one is being harmed, then... what's the harm? Of course, it could quite possibly go very wrong in the long term, but what relationship can't?

    Anyone who thinks women OR men make partner choices without at least some consideration of financial factors is laudably romantic, but possibly in denial.

    I'm reminded of an attractive friend who just LOVES to travel, because EVERYONE is so friendly - all the young men pay for her meals, invite her to their beach houses, onto their yachts, etc. So I, not being that attractive (nor that wealthy), can't help but wonder what I'm missing out on ;-)

  • @ Ganymede

    His behavior WAS atrocious and demeaning. I'd never do that during a job interview, (at least not until she got off premises.) But seriously, I'm sure she must have put out some type of energy for him to have felt save offering this possible "union contract" during an interview. which leads me to believe, in todays office environment, that nobody would do that. so I question the validity of the story myself. But if it is true, just because someone makes an unseemly offer does not mean you have to accept it. The article wasn't about his offer, it was about her acceptance. were it an article about males treating women like meat, I'm sure we'd be tearing him a new asshole instead of "her".

    BTW, This probably IS the closest thing to "legal prostitution" there is. And while I do think prostitution ought to be legalized, because a woman should do with her body as she pleases, that does not imply that I, or society, need to approve of the behavior. There are many things legal, yet unseemly in nature.Both these people need time "on the couch" to learn how to have a real relationship. because it seems to me the deepness a real relationship, wife, friend, whatever, is one of the few true gifts we are given in life. But if you never enter into one, you never learn the value, or how entering into the opposite actually may DEVALUE you or life in general. I'm not saying all relationships are or need to be deep to be successful. But as Obama said, "A pig with lipstick on it is still a pig."

  • as long as men want (a lot) more sex a lot more than women

    the "boundaries" between "prostitution" and "getting ahead" will ALWAYS be blurred.

  • Consistency

    As a good feminist, I believe in "my body, my choice". Even if someone thinks what she's doing is wrong, it's her body and neither we nor the government has any right to tell her otherwise.

    I can't wait for the day when feminists, the Supreme Court, and everyone else figures out that the only reason we condemn prostitution is that it is condemned in the Holy Bible, a document that I personally do not subscribe to.

    I say more power to you, sister! Don't let these hypocritical old second wavers get you down.

  • Of course it's prostitution . . .

    if the article is even true. I read it day before yesterday at the Daily Beast and had doubts about its veracity, or at the very least the details of the arrangement. What rich man is truly fool enough to turn over a sensitive document like his tax return to the sort of organization that could one day blackmail him?

    As to the author's story, if true, what makes it prostitution is that the arrangements were quite explicit. While she may be providing companionship, she is also providing sex for money (or material advancement) as part of an explicit deal.

    The difference between what she is doing and what a streetwalker is doing is the level of luxury and the price. Of course, if she was a girl from some trailer park actually trying to persuade some rich man to marry her, we would all be utterly outraged. How dare she presume?

    It is peculiar to me why the attitude of the typical liberal is one of being so much harder on golddiggers or even on women who marry up than it is on prostitutes.

  • re: indefinable

    I propose that prostitution to be defined as any sexual activity in which a woman feels entitled to less than half the male partner's total assets for her services rendered.

    We already know what it's called when she feels entitled to half or moreso. Is that clear cut enough?

  • Pathetic

    Yes, it's plain old prostitution. Her parents must be so proud or doesn't this girl tell her parents about her new "friend" ?

  • Transactional Analysts have a field day

    The actual feminists say, "consensual, mutually beneficial, what's the problem? She sounds like a boring and graceless person which reflects poorly on her beau, it's hard to imagine her conversation has lasting depth or sparkle, and her rates are certainly very low. But deciding to be that way is her choice."

    I think it's great that two so emotionally damaged people have managed to forge a workable relationship. People who can't relate flexibly end up with some compromise like bondage, marriage, payment, whatever. It's great that these two are unabashed enough to find their happiness.

    Relationships are fraught with fear of rejection, commitment, inadequacy, blah blah blah, and strategies like this one help dampen those pangs for they who are too sensitive.

    She's not a prostitute; prostitutes are indiscriminate. She's not a gold-digger, those angle for marriage. She's a kept woman. Time will tell whether she jumps one way or another or blossoms into something unexpected.

  • why, that reminds me of a song

    a song that tells a story a damn sight more colorful than the mercenary banality of the episode depicted in that article:

    Fancy (Bobbie Gentry)

    I remember it all very well lookin back

    It was the summer I turned eighteen

    We lived in a one room, rundown shack

    On the outskirts of New Orleans

    We didnt have money for food or rent

    To say the least we were hard pressed

    Then mama spent every last penny we had

    To buy me a dancin dress

    Mama washed and combed and curled my hair

    And she painted my eyes and lips then I stepped into a satin

    Dancin dress that had a split on the side clean up to my hip

    It was red velvet trim and it fit me good

    Standin back from the lookin glass

    There stood a woman where a half gown kid had stood

    She said heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    Heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    Mama dabbed a little bit of perfume on my neck

    And she kissed my cheek

    Then I saw the tears wellin up in her troubled eyes

    When she started to speak

    She looked at a pitiful shack

    And then she looked at me and took a ragged breath

    She said your pas run off and Im real sick

    And the babys gonna starve to death

    She handed me a heart shaped locket that said

    To thine own self be true

    And I shivered as I watched a roach crawl across

    The tow of my high heel shoe

    It sounded like somebody else that was talkin

    Askin mama what do I do

    She said just be nice to the gentlemen fancy

    And theyll be nice to you

    She said heres your chance fancy dont let me down

    Heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    Lord forgive me for what I do, but if you want out

    Well its up to you

    Now dont let me down you better start movin uptown

    Well, that was the last time I saw my ma

    The night I left that rickety shack

    The welfare people came and took the baby

    Mama died and I aint been back

    But the wheels of fate had started to turn

    And for me there was no way out

    And it wasnt very long til I knew exactly

    What my mamas been talkin about

    I knew what I had to do but I made myself this solemn vow

    That is gonna be a lady someday

    Though I dont know when or how

    I couldnt see spending the rest of my life

    With my head hung down in shame you know

    I might have been born just plain white trash

    But fancy was my name

    Heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    Heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    It wasnt very long after a benevolent man

    Took me off the street

    And one week later I was pourin his tea

    In a five room hotel suite

    I charmed a king, a congressman

    And an occasional aristocrat

    Then I got me a georgia mansion

    In an elegant new york townhouse flat

    And I aint done bad

    Now in this world theres a lot of self-righteous hippocrits

    That would call me bad

    And criticize mama for turning me out

    No matter how little we had

    But though I aint had to worry bout nothin

    For nigh on fifteen years

    I can still hear the desperation in my poor

    Mamas voice ringin in my ear

    She said, heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    Heres your one chance fancy dont let me down

    Lord, forgive me for what I do

    But if you want out well its up to you

    Now dont let me down

    Your mamas gonna help you uptown

    I guess she did

    See? That's downright romantic, in comparison. Bobbie Gentry always did have a way with words.

    (For another sample of Gentry's balladry, I suggest you youngsters Google up

    "harper valley p.t.a." + lyrics

    That's one you don't hear on "1960s oldies radio" very often.)

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