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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:00 AM

Hey, sister, empower yourself through submission

One reality TV star suggests that if you want to get a man, you'd better put away your BlackBerry.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 01:57 PM

And be Asian!

Why is this gold digger news worthy? She is, what, wife number 1+n of some rich Euro?

I don't understand the proliferation of these reality and soapy shows that seem to present the stereotypes of women.

Is it reassuring in our time of turmoil?

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:00 PM

Aren't stereotypes fun!

Hopefully, the Asian woman got the Countess into a kung-fu chokehold while her girlfriend slapped some sense into this brainless pile of trash.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:00 PM

Dignity? Plenty of women feel perfectly dignified living off a man's work

Plenty of uber rich men want a "professional" wife and are willing to pay very handsomely for it. The women who do so live tortured lives of opulence, bouncing from one charity ball to another. Stressed out about what jewels will match their 30k dress. Rough life.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:03 PM

But what else could a woman possibly want than a man to take care of her?

I love how it's assumed that all any woman wants is a man and they're just "doin it rong." And that it's assumed all men want to be a master of the house and don't want a woman who is their equal, can engage them mentally and take care of themselves. You know, if a woman wants a man to take care of them and they can find that man, good for them. But the presumption that that's the end-all be-all of womanhood, in the 21st century... I'd say it's surprising, but only because I don't know anyone like that and I don't look for their opinions.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:04 PM

Where's the follow up?

Could some reporter track down those two lucky gals to see how they're using the countess's advice? I bet they're both throwing on kimonos and binding their feet right now.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:08 PM

Submissive?

Dear Lord, Ms. Countess has obviously never been in a relationship with an Asian woman. I don't know where that stereotype came from but Wow, Asian women are not submissive.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:11 PM

This is making my blood pressure rise

Every time I see this racial stereotype, I just about blow a fuse. I need to back off and go beat up some men...

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:25 PM

And while you're at it...

Go ahead and put that book down too. Men don't like women who can read. Knitting? That's bad too, since men don't want women who are able to function independently. And while we're on the subject, you don't really think men want women who drink, do you? Do why don't you go ahead and pack up and go home. That's where men want women and that's the only place you'll ever impress one.

Wait, you don't already have a man at home to impress? Well, I guess you'll have to meet one at the grocery store, since that's the only place that men actually expect to see women. Of course, since men don't want to do any shopping themselves and expect the women to do it, good luck finding one there...

So, how does one meet a Count anyway?

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:32 PM

Submissive Asian Women

This twit has never spent time around actual Asian women, especially my wife, her mother, grandmother, aunts, friends and cousins. Hard-headed and strong-willed every one of them, and that's not at all unusual. They back their husbands up in public. They defer on matters that are understood to be the husband's concerns.

But it's understood that their men back them to the hilt in public and keep husbandly hands off things that are the wife's domain. That includes the home and, more often than not, finances and the family business.

I've known a fair number of White men who thought that Asian women were meek, submissive doormats. They learned differently. And "traditional" Asian women are changing. A lot of Chinese, Japanese and Korean women are staying single rather than marry a little Emperor who expects his wife to be a slave to his parents.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:35 PM

O-Ren Ishii will cut your head off

Is that empowered enough?

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:37 PM

Attention Whore

Sounds like somebody is a sleep-with-a-count-for-money-and-status whore AND an attention whore. I am not surprised.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 02:37 PM

Not out West...

Wow, that is some old Europe crap. Personally, when I see a woman on her Blackberry I think:

-she has her own income and I don't have to support her...we can be financial partners

-she is tech savvy and probably likes gadgets more than the average woman

I guess living in Silicon Valley we are exposed to Asian Americans more than some, those out of date stereotypes are really almost non existant here.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 03:00 PM

Thank God I never watch that show

Wow... Can we see a woman who is anymore disillusioned with life and relying purely on stereotypes of gender, class, and race in order to interact with other human beings? Unlike you, Countess, the rest of us are a little concerned with the economy and the state of our country. If you think about it, her method of looking for single, rich men is quickly vanishing thanks to the collapse on Wall St. In times like these, the men with the most money are probably dead broke or really high in debt. The big swinging dick CEOs (BWDs) were declared dead by Slate Magazine a few days ago. If there is one silver lining to the financial meltdown, is that is gets rid of the scumbags consumed by greed and exposes them for who they are. I am willing to bet that Wall Street is pretty low on rich men looking for wives since they can't afford them. Sorry, Countess. Any good woman would never take advice from you. You aren't for women, you are for clones of yourself since you have no one else in the world.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 03:05 PM

It's a double whammy.

It's tragic, honestly, that Asian women often end up being shoehorned into one of two stereotypes--the frail, submissive cherry blossom, or the aggressive, domineering dragon-lady.

What's worse is that sort of Orientalism, that yellow fever, is almost always about sexualizing 'exotic beauties', turning them into toys meant to be seen and played with, but not as actual people.

I'm willing to bet that this dim-witted, racist housewife would have blithely asked the Korean woman to help her order from a Chinese restaurant, had she gotten that far.

It's _almost_ a shame that this 'countess' can't have her feet bound and submissively waste her life away waiting for Pinkerton to come back.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 03:21 PM

karma and all that shit

I think the "countess" is the latest of a string of former wives. My guess would be is that the "count" wants something young and lovely and accommendating and . . . replaceable when the time comes.

The current "countess" has little going for her other than as perfessional "companion" and this inane "reality" show.

I would classify the countess as a . . . "woman"

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