Why can you not hear me when I say that I am blaming the problems on myself and my fellow women? What about that concept is so challenging of your own viewpoint? I am asking for us to stand up and take charge- how is that different from your solution?

As an aside, way to go with raising a daughter that ran for president :) very nice parenting!

Thanks for the thoughtful response.

Rather than take our budding conversation and risk having it devolve into an argument with me pointing out that there's a fundamental difference between investigative journalism and fact checking or having a basic understanding of the subject matter you're writing about; that snark and troll bait are nothing to celebrate; and that Traister has, to the best of my knowledge, not written anything worth reading since her dissection of the candidates spouses during the primary season.....We disagree here, and it's all good.

Let me just say that way back in the day Salon was one hell of a website. It was a welcome distraction from the trials and tribulations of my college existence. I enjoyed it so thoroughly that upon graduating and getting my first real full time job, I splurged on a premium membership. Clearly, I'm no longer a member.

From my jaded perch, broadsheet represents most of what's wrong with salon. Perhaps I'm not in on the joke, but is it really funny to have women complaining about the gender wage gap when they're routinely putting in no more than 30% of the efforts of their colleagues in different parts of the publication/site/journal? Ok, let me check myself, it's hilarious, but only because it's sad... And yeah, it pisses me off that I subsidized this tragic direction for years. So I'll write a letter to the editor and try to articulate my misgivings along these lines. Of course, letters at salon aren't meant for the editors, they're meant for the community....

The part of your letter where we clearly see eye to eye is that broadsheet isn't serious feminist commentary....but that's only if you consider broadsheet's words. However, putting broadsheet's commentary alongside the presumed goals of feminism, Broadsheet is actually an outstanding commentary on the shortcomings of feminism in our modern age. Adults, behaving like children, demanding to be treated as equals, approaching cherry-picked issues from a closed-minded standpoint, posting articles that frequently contradict adjacent pieces or pieces written by the same contributor and, most importantly, articulating their views in language designed to only appeal to those already within an exclusionary tent is no way to achieve any political goal.....I've written letters along these lines in the past.

Sorry to have written this much, this really isn't the forum for this. I think "[taking broadsheet] for what it is," demands that we table our discussion and watch other letter writers continue to talk past one another....

I do have a serious question for you, when did you take me off your ignore list? ;)

Actually, I think it was a few weeks back. You said something that sounded quite sensible and my ignore list was getting long, so I took you off. In fact, I think I posted to you about this at the end of a thread, but you may not have noticed. In your place, I added someone else on.

Were you a participant in Glenn's thread where cdevlin started spouting that stuff about teaching creationism in the schools? It may have been that one.

My bad for misunderstanding- thanks for the compliment!