dedicated only to women conductors; have a look:

http://www.kapralova.org/CONDUCTORS.htm

A quick estimation/count yields about 400 female names there. There may be fewer female conductors than we might expect, but the more I look around the more I see them. Maybe it is indeed just a matter of time. After all, classical music, being so "conservative" in outlook, needs some time to become more modern.

I have myself wondered at redshooz--his viewpoints are usually so predictably anti-feminist, as if he thought there could never be anything, anywhere, said or done by a feminist that might make the slightest sense. If you protest against that, boom--there comes the snark. There are others like this--my favorite is MerelyMortalMale (whose name I keep misreading as MarilynMonroeMale :D), who does know how to spell, and seems to have a better idea of what is happening in the world--maybe he's read more books. He even has interesting points to make sometimes, if you leave out all the hurt feelings.

I keep hoping these people will someday actually want to discuss points, rather than simply throwing little bombs. Maybe they've been hurt by mean feminist girlfriends or sisters or something like that; that would explain their tendency to exaggerate the bad points and to ignore any possible good points. As I've already said in many posts, some of their points (especially MMM's) are actually worth discussing.

Right on! I had the honor to study with a great woman conductor in Denver--the late Antonia Brico. She studied with Karl Muck, was a personal friend of Jan Sibelius whose music she championed, was a frequent guest of Albert Schweitzer. She ran a piano,voice and conducting studio and conducted a small local orchestra in Denver after being blocked by bigots and others in Denver. She was finally brought to light on the international stage by a fellow pupil named Judy Collins, made several recordings on the old Columbia label. She could conduct EVERYTHING from Bach, Brahms, to opera. I miss her badly, but was privilege to know her.

until the men of any particular profession find another place to gather and piss to mark a new territory. Have you noticed that as soon as a female moves into a particularly exclusive male domain, the men eventually leave that profession and find a new territory to dominate?

The pay goes down, the prestige slides a little because hey, with no guy to measure up against, what's it worth anyway? Look at all the talking female heads holding down the desks on the cable news shows. But look at all the men with the special news segments that dominate the entire news channel. Even "Paging Dr. Gupta" is more important than Heidi at the desk! And all he does is scare us, then reassure us, when he isn't trapsing off across the world with that white-haired guy and the other one who I never can remember either. I was expecting CNN to put out a "HUNKS" poster with the three of them.

No, it's a man's world and now matter how many TV shows, magazines, advertisements, and a host of other cultural crap tries to force fashion, make-up,cell phones, push-up bras,and iPods on us, we'll just have to keep fighting them for a piece of the action.

Yes, classical conductors may make good money, but not compared to CEOs of large corporations. If any of the early composers made any money in their day, it was because they were subsidized by aristocrats. (What we now call Republicans.) To this day, most classical music is subsidized by pretentious rich people who have no idea what they are listening to. I am not anti-feminist. I am anti-the automatic accusations of sexism that arise over the most trivial issues. The very fact that many women in this country consider Sarah Palin a "feminist" is very telling about how virtually meaningless the term has become. I stand by my earlier points. Asage didn't have anything new to add, so she/he corrected my spelling. Asephe stoops to personal attacks regarding my intelligence. As far as having facts at my disposal, I was under the impression that letters to the editors was a place for opinions not news reports. And, again, it was Asephe, being from another country (if not another planet) who did not realize that serious penalties await young men who do not register for the draft. (That's one I made sure to look up on the internet.) I believe he called my point "dull" since the draft was not active at the moment. And still, NO ONE (male or female) has been able to site ONE law that applies adversely to WOMEN only. If "feminism" would, in fact, live up to its claim of wanting equal rights and opportunites for men and women, this wouldn't be an issue. Thank you and bless your hearts.

Here we go again, the breathless charge of sexism when women don't get top-tier men's jobs "proportionally." Well, how many women put in the time and effort men did? And where's the recognition of what it cost the men to succeed exceedingly well in a specialized field? Where, too, the decrying of the sexism that keeps men from becoming single-dads post-divorce? That is, where is feminism's fight to open traditional female worlds equally to men?

Oh, yes: When men don't want such things...just like women never wanted to play sports. Besides, when a man is denied access it's because he is, individually, "unworthy." There's no systemic discrimination save that which harms women. So feminists self-servingly assure us. And we all know that the only "equals" feminists help are their own ilk. What's his is ours, what's hers is hers.

"I have myself wondered at redshooz--his viewpoints are usually so predictably anti-feminist..."

Catty, catty, catty. And sooooo feminist.

"MerelyMortalMale (whose name I keep misreading as MarilynMonroeMale"

Ouch, Assheap. That smarts. How dare you compare me to that dead bimbo.

What? She was smart? And a great actress? Who knew?

But so what, really. Her mommy was nuts. That explains all.

"[MMM] He even has interesting points to make sometimes, if you leave out all the hurt feelings."

Yes, yes. Men aren't allowed feelings. Certainly not feelings that justify anything. It's okay for a pampered white woman in America to get "angry" about a Tibetan woman mugged in Nepal. No one asks HER if she was mugged.

And let a man give money to a rape prevention group and no one will accuses HIM of being raped.

In fact, when feminists WANT male support they say it's "everyone's" duty to get involved, be it stopping DV or giving to breast cancer research. That is, it's assumed that normal human decency and empathy leads to certain feelings/actions. No one asked Lincoln if he'd been a slave when he freed blacks.

But let a man critique anything about feminism and out come the putdowns, all attempting to silence him. He must "hate all women" or his "mother wore (or did NOT!) combat boots," etc. It's never that men get angry at things that are unjust, unfair, etc. The message gets sidestepped in order to stop the messenger. That feminists might be wrong about something, or even sexist, cannot be considered. The focus must be on the motives of anyone pointing out the Empress' nakedness.

Sadly, it used to work too well. Just like mocking businesswomen as prudish prunes kept millions of women from seeking MBAs. But now men have had enough. They're starting to speak out. Not to convert feminists (an impossibility). but to let others know they are not alone in noting/fighting feminist toxicity.

"I keep hoping these people will someday actually want to discuss points, rather than simply throwing little bombs."

Feminists? Never. All they DO is thow bombs...even if most are duds and/or "stinkers."