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Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:00 AM

What does it mean to be an "anti-feminist"?

Men's rights lawyer Roy Den Hollander has just completed a trilogy of anti-feminist lawsuits. Watch out, women's studies!

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Thursday, August 21, 2008 04:38 AM

@Asehpe

It was AP US History (APUSH, as we called it), so junior year of high school, not junior high (I was like 17).

I think the theory was that somehow we already knew all about Hitler, the Holocaust, Stalingrad from all the "other" courses. Part of the problem is that the course teaches to the AP exam and the exam itself is explicitly focused on cultural history and COMPLETELY excludes military history.

Basically every history teacher I've ever had has taken the attitude that most of the commenters here have taken, "Well, of COURSE I can ignore the 'dead white guys' history because they've already learned that stuff over and over again." Which my generation never has, because all of our teachers have this attitude--remembered from their own education, perhaps?

One commenter said that HIStory is "men's studies", and all I have to say is maybe that was true in the past, but it sure ain't anymore. I was taught all about the Zoot Suit Riots, the Tuskegee Institute, the Trail of Tears, but I had to learn on my own what the Battle of the Bulge was, or where the phrase "crossing the Rubicon" comes from.

All I'm saying is we need some balance. The sad fact is that for most of world history women and minorities were largely excluded from participating in important parts of public life. That doesn't mean that the things the white guys were doing in the meantime (when they weren't busy with all the oppressing) are incidental in history.

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:52 PM

Now he's getting a taste of growing up in a culture which reveres an entire segment of humanity and their glorification, ... and is expected to tow the party line silently and without objection.

Good to see a feminist admit that this is the position that men are in and the position that feminists want them in, well not exactly good I guesss, but something.

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 09:59 PM

23 Indicators of Systemic Discrimination Against Men

* The American woman by the 1960s lived in the nation with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that nation.

* Feminists "felt victimized", however, and convinced American women that they are "discriminated against".

* Never have they been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim.

* key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat.

1. Wealth: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine]

2. Child Custody: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [Department of Health & Human Services]

3. Income: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [Dept. Labor]

4. Suicide: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. Health & Human Services -- 26,710 males vs 5,700 females]

5. Life Expectancy: Men's life expectancy is seven (7) years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics -- males 72.3 yrs vs females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs.

6. Affirmative Action: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through affirmative action.

7. Federal Taxes: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters.

8. Vote: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent.

9. War: Men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense -- Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butt pinched.

10. Workplace Fatalities: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities.

11. Murder: Men are murdered at a rate almost 5 times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services -- 26,710 men vs 5,700 women]

12. Jury Bias: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics -- 1.4% of men vs 12.9% of women]

13. Court Bias: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics -- men at 17 years vs women at 6 years]

14. Justice System Bias: Even though the amount of the average "child support payment" due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of "child support" collections prosecutions [Census Bureau]

15. Welfare: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women.

16. Higher Education: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Math are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollment were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4 year college students were men as of 1990, and this figure has declined since then.

17. Legal System Bias: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"]

18. Domestic Violence: Even though study after study shows that women are the majority of the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II.which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it].

19. Child Violence: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women.

20. Family Breakdown: The US Surgeon General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 Trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability.

21. Women Pilots: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway.

22. Women Drivers: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes.

23. Incarceration: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women.

Comment: My dear knee-jerk Broadsheet feminists. I know that this won't change your mind. No logical argument can't do that. Feminism is your dogmatic religion and is part of your identity as a victims so you can blame the world for your failures and mistakes. Hoping that you can accept any argument against feminism is like hoping a devout Muslim can accept any argument against Islam. Impossible.

You will cherry pick one of this 23 items (the one that suits you the best) to discuss it with fallacies and personal attacks. I have seen this before and I will see it repeat ad nauseam.

This post is only for people who has not relinquished their rational skills to a cult of victimhood. There are people like this reading Broadsheet, regardless of their gender

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