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Monday, July 7, 2008 12:00 AM

Reader, she married him

As wedding season churns on (and celebrities' marriages rip open), the New York Times offers a mini-instruction manual on connubial bliss.

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Monday, July 7, 2008 07:44 AM

Danger, Will Robinson!

Do. Not. Read. The. Times. Article. While. Eating.

Or on an empty stomach, for that matter. I heard the dry heaves can kill you.

What a pair of screwed-up people. I mean, seriously dysfunctional.

Oh well. At least they'll keep two other people out of the disaster zone until they divorce in a nuclear meltdown of hate and recrimination.

Monday, July 7, 2008 08:07 AM

Ew. Ew. Ew.

It makes me embarrassed to have read the Nanny Diaries.

Worst. Wedding. Announcement. Ever.

Monday, July 7, 2008 08:29 AM

Loved the Dowd piece.

A priceless bit of misandry. 100% about how women can avoid evil, good-for-nothing men; 0% about how men can avoid bad women or choose a good mate. Thanks Maureen. And of course this is all from a never-married woman. Who better to advise us? (I know she was mostly quoting a priest, but she's the one who chose what to print, not him.)

But for all its misandry, the real low point of the article is not what it says but what it doesn't say - that one thing one should do in any relationship is look at oneself if there are problems. According to Dowd and her interlocutor, the problem is always with the other, never with oneself. Needless to say, that is factually false and all but guaranteed to influence readers to continually discard mate after mate because they don't measure up - a plan for certain failure.

Here's the truth. Relationships that work do so because both people make them work; those that fail do so because both people make them fail.

It tolls for thee.

Monday, July 7, 2008 08:31 AM

How's about not getting married at all?

I'm not saying you can't have a fulfilling monogamous relationship with your loved one, but really, what's the point in getting married?

Why does your relationship need the recognition from a church and the state to be genuine? There are other ways to bring your friends and family together to celebrate your union without some ceremony that serves no purpose but to make your mother happy and put a lot of undue pressure on a new couple.

Monday, July 7, 2008 08:36 AM

It's best to avoid the entire NYT Style section...

...unless you want an instant "Your life sucks if you aren't married-with-brat-rich-husband-and-splendiferous-house" mood anvil to fall on your head. :) As for Dowd, why on earth would anyone want to take marriage advice filtered through her "ain't got no ma-yn and I'm worthless" attitude?

Monday, July 7, 2008 08:57 AM

Marrying your pet

Since the Gay Rights discussion seems to have destroyed all objections based on customs, law, naturalness, and majority vote, I am awaiting with great interest to see what possible objection anyone could (fashionably)have to pet marriage..disigny

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:10 AM

The Virtuous Wife and the Responsible Husband

I think the Jews got it right 2500 years ago. I went to a double funeral this weekend of a husband and wife who were friends of mine. King Solomon's discription of the Virtuous Wife was one of the more touching parts.

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:10 AM

Jane Eyre?

Rad.

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:10 AM

Why get married?

Ok, you can have a committed, monogamous, romantic relationship without getting married. However, as someone who can't get married (oh, and "naturalness" isn't a good counter argument by the way, since gayness is exhibited in other animals), the benefits of getting married are quite obvious.

Marriage gives one a universal contract with established rights. If I want my bf to inherit things or be able to equitably distribute joint property in the case of us breaking up, I have to contract for these things individually. Not to mention that neither he nor I received a stimulus payment even though we would have as a married couple.

Now perhaps it isn't as big an issue for Male-Female couples, since most states assume that you are married after you live together for enough years. But at least the civil union parts of the arrangement should be available to all (and the state can then get out of the business of sanctioning weddings altogether).

(Oh, and by the way Leona Helmsley left $12MM to her dog--the $8 billion was to her foundation to support the welfare of dogs in general)

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:11 AM

At first worry me more

about Devan Sipher of New York Time who write this Harlequin on Paxil than couple who play Miss Piggy song "He'll Make Me Happy" at wedding and maybe have little bit playful self-deprecate inside.

Then watch Svutlana video of Ms Nicola and Mr David and know for sure that this couple share extreme irony deficiency combine with rampage narcissism that make them meld together in perfect confluence and rise up, like bile and undigest breakfast.

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:27 AM

Eeeuwwwww

That's a wedding announcement?

I don't know which predominates: the smug, or the weird.

The etiquette mavens must be rolling in their graves.

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:50 AM

Oh Dear God...

Could that woman have come across as any more desperate? And talk about overshare...

Reminds me of the Sex and the City episode where a friend of Miranda's got engaged 2 weeks after meeting her "soul mate." As Mr. Big said: "I'll give it 6 months."

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:52 AM

Wow

The only starred letter is from gezelligtexas. gezelligtexas can't see any benefits of a marrige.... Salon loves that.

I have one. It's good for the children. I argue that it is healthier for a child if her parents are married.

Salon is backwards.

Monday, July 7, 2008 09:56 AM

When anthropomorphizers attack!

I watched a few minutes of some stupid TV show (so often a redundant description) wherein a dog breeder searched online for the perfect mate for her dog, traveled to Las Vegas with the pooch, deemed the dogs a match and then proceeded to conduct a marriage ceremony right there in the living room.

It was both hysterically funny and obnoxious.

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:01 AM

@ Mikes place

Why is marriage healthier for children?

If the parents live together and both play a role in raising the child, what's the difference?

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:06 AM

Kraus

This is a tacky little press release. But it’s done its job and gotten her lots of press.

I’ll give the marriage a year. It’s going to take that long to come up with enough material for a decent divorce memoir but any longer and we’ll have forgotten who Kraus is…

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:14 AM

Schadenfreude

Sarah,

Fear not regarding Nicola's impending blissful marriage. People that announce that they meditate rarely do. And guys that dress in '40s costumes aren't a whole lot different than guys that dress in Batman suits.

Or wear makeup like the Joker's. Really.

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:18 AM

Karma's a Bitch then she leaves you for another loser

Ms. Brinkley met all of her husbands, while cheating on her current spouse at that time. Not only did she bang #2 while 'managing' Billy Joel's career, she got the kid too and took the ex for literally almost every dime he had. Brinkley is a sociopath who's finally met her match in the I Don't Give a Fuck What You Do department.

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