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Tuesday, July 1, 2008 12:00 AM

Get ready for prairie chic!

Fundamentalist Mormon women go into the online clothing business.

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Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:30 AM

Secular Modest Feminist Here...

...I wouldn't wear these. Ever.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:37 AM

That one-piece undergarment ...

Two-piece undergarments were invented for a reason. Those one-piece girl's long johns would make going to the bathroom a logistical pain (unless there's an opening in the back that I can't see in the picture). A girl would have to take off her dress, take off her long johns, use the toilet, then put everything back on again.

When you couple this with the large number of wives and children per family, the lines for the FLDS women's bathrooms must stretch all the way across the compound.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:40 AM

I want several!

I think this is going to be my Halloween costume. All I need is a few girlfriends and my sweetie and we’re set. Out of our way slutty cats and witches!

And you know there is a website called Mormon Chic – it’s were I get all my recipes for homemade household cleaners.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:40 AM

Mmmm, sexy

And one question: Are those fundie undies of the Mormon magical variety?

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:54 AM

does anyone else remember

gunne sax? seeing as how we're once again seeing the feathered, beaded roach clips in the hair, the next logical step are the prairie dresses and gathered long sleeves of the faux-prarie style. Remember 1981? Yeah, we're back there again. the fundamentalists STOLE our 80's fashion. bastards.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:00 AM

Funny you mention Gunny Sax

I was just lamenting to my daughter that I had at some point gotten rid of all my Gunny Saxs. Some of those would be great to have right now. The FLDS line - maybe not so much since I don't want to support them. I suppose I could hit the fabric store and whip a few up.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:09 AM

Up next, Mormon lingere!

Oh, wait, that IS Mormon lingere. Never mind.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:12 AM

are these 80s prom dresses?

we were SO ripped off w/ those gunne sax dresses for prom dresses in the 80s.

I've already been talking to my ole' high school friends about this.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:21 AM

what will they do

when their sales go up at Halloween time?

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:24 AM

Self-Sufficiency

Think of it this way.

Making and selling those clothes will help those women support themselves, rather than rely on public services -- or return to their husbands.

Economic self-sufficiency is a powerful thing. How do you keep them down on the farm once they've had their own checking account?

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:34 AM

ugh

I am loath to defend Mormonism as a religion, but since I come from Montana and have many decent LDS neighbors I feel compelled to mention that mainstream LDS has banned the practice of polygamy for the past 100 years or so. I know it makes a clever catch-line but if you're going to stand up against mean-spirited mischaracterizations of women, you might as well have the courtesy to do it for people with whom you don't agree.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:37 AM

clarity

Could Judy please clarify. Are we making nasty sneering jokes at a child protective services agency that is trying to help the finances of homeless mothers who want to see their children. Or are we being mean and snide to mothers trying to support themselves and their children while they are homeless and trying to defend themselves against as yet unproven accusations. Because I know I definately want to make fun of them for dressing differently than I do, that's apparently a given.

I don't approve of polygamy. If even half of what is bandied about in the media is true, then many of these mothers are victims. Oh, victim bashing, that's what we're supposed to be doing. It looks like I figured it out on my own, never mind.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:37 AM

oh.

Just now noticed that the site is run by FLDS and not LDS. But, same principle stands, for any of you who might be tempted to confuse the two.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:44 AM

Little bit confuse me

At first think Svutlana it is FDS, feminine deodorant spray, that sell curtain disguise as dress for young girl. What relief for find out it is Mormon sect who know something about how for cover up.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 12:07 PM

@jsimon

I thought we were making fun of credulous simpletons who have fallen for iron age ignorance and superstition. Or at least one specific, 19th century interpretation of it.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 12:55 PM

Making Fun

I think making fun of these women is a bad idea.

First, I do think that economic self-sufficiency might be useful in more ways than getting them off the welfare rolls.

Second, I think making fun of them is the sort of thing that could be spun by the usual suspects into an elitist liberal conspiracy against good country people (and if you've read Flannery O'Connor's story by that title, you'll know how sarcastic I'm being).

Third, and most important. I think those of them who have never known anything else are defending the only way of life they know. I think the others are brainwashed/suffering Stockholm Syndrome. And making fun of people in that condition makes me feel slightly nauseated.

Don't do it. It's like throwing rocks at puppies.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 01:23 PM

HBO's Best Efforts?

I'd hardly say that HBO's been trying to make FLDS or any of the other polygamist variants particularly acceptable or attractive. While the core family is pretty wholesome (with its own set of problems, of course), it's worth noting that A) the partners are all adults, and were adults at the time of the marriage; B) they're not affiliated with a church; C) The actual polygamist sects are portrayed VERY negatively -- The United Effort Brotherhood (UEB) is a desolate place where wives are routinely taken away from their husbands as punishment; the prophet, Roman, takes young children as his brides, and Bill was kicked out as a young adult because he could potentially threaten Roman's position. And that's the most positive it gets -- the Greens, featured in Season 3, resort to assassination attempts and are profoundly weird in a loathesome sort of way.

You could argue that Bill's family is an advertisement for FLDS and polygamy in general; or you could see it as an advertisement for the possibility of more than two consenting adults creating a household.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 01:42 PM

Not just for Halloween any more

Those of you who see this solely as a Halloween costume need to broaden your horizons.

Next time the local elementary school has a "Pioneer Days" parade, I know where to get my daughter's costume!

Tuesday, July 1, 2008 01:50 PM

this will not aid their self-sufficency

@greeneyedkzn:

The women in the FLDS are already allowed to work outside jobs and many do. Some of them are allowed to go to college, but they are told what they may study and are sent with other young men/women to keep strict tabs on one another. Everything they earn is given over to their husbands who decide what the wives and children are allowed.

The church has not been afraid to co-opt liberal rhetoric, such as suggesting that the money will aid women in need or claiming they are being denied religious freedom. Meanwhile, they teach that the whole outside world in in the thrall of Satan and so it is permissible to lie to, trick, and steal from outsiders. Enriching the one true church at the expense of the godless outsiders is considered god's work. It's the same principle behind their systemic welfare fraud scam. They call it "bleeding the beast"

Those women are only impoverished if the church wants them to be, or to appear so. The FLDS is an extremely wealthy organization. This is a propaganda play for sympathy; don't fall for it.

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