that way you know that when they are doing it they are making an appropriately great sacrifice.

Obviously you're not :) I get offended by this whole dogmatic women/men are XYZ when it comes to porn, so many anti-porn crusaders end up objectifying and dehumanising women just as much as they claim porn does.

Myself, as a man I can't be bothered with mainstream commercial porn, not because I find it offensive but precisely because it lacks a story line. I find it boring and uninteresting.

I know a number of lesbians who have _NO_ interest in men (of course) but love girl on girl porn. A couple of them, while out drunking with me, have told me that they love jilling off to porn. ("Ok, Monika. I think it's time to call you a cab.") This idea that porn exploits women seems to be a great argument against porn until one considers gay male porn and porn that has been made for woman by woman.

maybe they aren't as all gay as you, or possibly they, think.

Svutlana always say porn with plot is like guy who deliver pizza in horse-draw carriage: maybe look impress, but serve absolute no purpose (and maybe pizza get little bit cold).

Beside, if can believe research that Broadsheet recent present, women find all sex extreme stimulate for watch, even if sex involve bonobo chimpanzee or horse from pizza carriage.

a snore.

Actually, the little porn that I have seen seems have story lines too much like an inverted V or rather ^. Which is boring, don't you think? In other words, an overemphasis on a rising climax followed by a quick denoument. I think women would like it better if the story lines were more V^V^V^ or maybe like a spiral @ or a loop & or maybe, to be a little kinky, a noose Q. Something like this would be pretty: ~~~^! Story lines would be better if they came in waves with the waves getting bigger and bigger and bigger until ~.ah~.god!~~~`YES!!!! Also, I would like to see as many men going down `> *** as there are going up /. Women should strive for dining equality.

I have been told that men like porn more than because they are more visual. It is good to know this. I may therefore conclude that I am not the least bit visual. ;)

I've been reading romance novels for many years, and the biggest change over the last few years is the popularity of "erotica". It's become a lot more acceptable, in the same way that porn has become more acceptable over the same time period. I recently moved back to Georgia, and bookstores that wouldn't carry regular romance novels 15 years ago are now carrying Ellora's Cave books that feature threesomes, bondage and bestiality.

I don't think erotica is the same thing as porn - for one thing, I don't think most women who read erotica aren't reading it specifically as foreplay. But, there's obviously a large demand for this kind of material, so women are looking for "X-rated fare", they just aren't necessarily finding it labeled as "porn".

So if you are a woman, you HAVE to like and dislike certain things? Becuase that is exactly what it sounds like these groups are saying. Why is it so hard to beleive that just because someone else has a double "x" chromosome, they couldn't possibly have interests that differ from yours? This is different then what those religious groups are saying about abortion, how? Y'know, men are bad about things like what it takes to be a "real" man, but we don't have any stupid rules that say if your a guy you can't possibly like this or that. We may make fun of each other about what we like, but we don't automatically assume that the guy doesn't really like it and is trying to appease his lady friend just becuase we don't understand it.

Now, is really trying to oppress women here?

I have been told that men like porn more than because they are more visual. It is good to know this. I may therefore conclude that I am not the least bit visual. ;)

Yet again I find myself in total agreement with AKA. And yet there is a paradox--porn leaves me cold, but I quite enjoy watching two women getting it on together in the same room as me. I guess I am abnormal. Or maybe just shortsighted.

Porn is boring in exactly the same way as TV sit-coms are boring. Just as you can hardly forget that Bill Cosby is up there wearing an old sweater and doing his usual omniscient daddy schtick, you cannot really suspend disbelief enough to forget that people are having sex with the lights on for money with a camera stuck up their crotch. (I also find the repetition of certain phrases in the dialogue a bit clicheed.)

I would really like to be able to develope a taste for porn, though, as I feel very left out when it is discussed. I probably need to start with small quantities to build up tolerance.

Please, Ms. Tracy, would you give us a Broadsheet-recommended porn bibliography or filmography that works for you!

The only 'porn' I've EVER liked was Boogie Nights, which was a movie by the very talented Paul Thomas Anderson ABOUT a fictionalized group of pornographers in 1970s LA.

I STILL drool thinking about that scene where the Vietnamese kid throws down firecrackers to the tune of Sister Christian. Oh, and Amber Waves and the most seriously fuckable Rollergirl all coked up, oh, oh! and that song about the Lair of the Mountain King and the pool. OH! and the faux crime chasers Dirk Diggler and his sidekick (the Rock Hard guy). Man that movie ROCKED.

As a woman who just wrote a porn script that was filmed less than a month ago by a major adult studio -- and who watches more porn in a month than the average person probably sees in a lifetime -- I'm pretty sure that there IS hot pornography that features both great sex and an engaging plot line... for those who want both. There's also hot porn that features great sexual chemistry and little or no dialogue. Heck, there's even porn that features gorgeous men and women who aren't "porno perfect," if you will. Like every form of commercialized art, there's something for everybody if you'll just look hard enough and learn where to look. The problem, of course, is that people who hate porn are utterly disinterested in anything that deviates from their pre-conceived notions about what porn is... It's always impressive what opinionated know-nothing "experts" these folks invariable reveal themselves to be.