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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:00 AM

"PUMAs": Angrier than I thought

Readers' responses to a piece about Hillary Clinton supporters.

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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:46 AM

The Tracist is at it again

Traister is engaging in anti-Obama agitprop because of her racist hatred of Obama. She has never apologized for her racist slur on "Obama boys":

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/04/14/obama_supporters/

Until the Tracist apologizes or is fired, Salon has no standing to publish articles like this.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:47 AM

The Results Are In ...

Rebecca wrote that "with time, tempers would cool, and that many of Clinton's liberal and politically devoted supporters would find a way to their own excitement about Obama's candidacy."

Instead, angry Clinton supporters sent in hundreds of letters of protest saying they would never get over it.

I guess that's the difference between the two candidates. Obama inspires Love in his supporters. Clinton? She inspires something else in hers ...

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:47 AM

Reflections of reality

I certainly hope, for your sake, that you don't suppose the populace herein as reflective of reality. A life lived as upon the posting panels of salon would, indeed, be nasty, brutish and short.

If my completely obnoxious, willfully ignorant sister, who supported Hillary, can vote for Obama, than just about anyone can.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:50 AM

Hillary Clinton supporters?

I keep making this point but I despair of the prospects that it might be understood by writers, bloggers and pundits everywhere:

I am not now nor ever was a big supporter of Hillary Clinton. Of the major Dems running for the nomination, she was next to dead last on my list of candidates I wanted or was willing to support. Dead last on the list? Barack Obama.

Even not being a Clinton supporter, I found his campaign tactics Rovian. (And why wouldn't they be? Rovian tactics worked for an opportunist like Bush and an opportunist like Obama wants to win above all else.)

PUMA's are not merely to be found among disaffected Clinton supporters. Many are just like me. They can't and won't support a lightweight who has neither the experience or the grasp of the issues to make a good president in these trying times. From where I sit, Obama is like Dubya without the verbal tics.

Where is Obama on FISA? Where is he on the Iraq War? Where is he on the mandates that are necessary for anything approaching true universal healthcare? Where is Obama on Social Security? Where is he on NAFTA?

Obama is a cypher. He will not have my support. He used whatever tools and influence he had at his disposal to subvert the democratic process in the primaries and to get the DNC's RBC to award him votes and delegates he did not earn.

Angry? You betcha I'm angry. I want a Democrat who understands what being a Democrat means. Obama? He is a lot of things, but an agent of change and "the one I have been waiting for" is not on that list.

My goal this year is to see strong gains by Democrats in the House and the Senate...and to see a divided government with an opposition party president in the White House so that the congress and the chief executive spend the next four years moderating each other by being at each others throats. In short, I'm for splitting the vote.

This lifelong Dem will not vote for Barack Obama. Period. And Hillary has nothing to do with it.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:53 AM

To Political Poet: Obama inspires love?

Are you kidding? Since when did mob mentality, intolerance of dissent and a cult of personality equate to love?

I have never in all my years of participating in Democratic politics seen the ugliness I have seen from the ranks of Obama supporters. It's the liberal equivalent of the cult of Dubya. No thanks.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:57 AM

hard to know

a) I do think that Salon, as a whole is obsessed with this story and seems intent on keeping the flames burning

b) polls suggest otherwise

c) also keep in mind that a lot of the letters that I've seen have been written by the same people. "Hundreds" seems pretty misleading to me. It reminds me of all of the stories about Obama not able to connect to working class people, and then you look at the polls now. It seems pretty silly to me.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:58 AM

Good for them,

They should vote for McCain, like that when their daughters are in alleys with coat hangers they'll know who to blame. Or perhaps when their grandchildren get blown to little pieces of meat in some godforsaken battlefield, they'll know who to blame. When their house gets washed away because of poor environmental planning, they'll know who to blame.

They can look right in the mirror and say it's that n___ers fault, not mine at all.

So go ahead and vote McCain because your candidate didn't win.

Then I'll know who to blame.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:58 AM

Translation for the uninitiated

What a poster says:

"This lifelong Dem"

What a poster means:

"This Freeper"

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:00 PM

Funny

Obama's tactics were Rovian? Compared to, um, Hillary's?

Yeah. Sure.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:01 PM

Roman Berry on what being a Democrat is all about

There's a word for someone who prefers McCain over any Democratic candidate, while accepting the inevitability of Democratic gains in Congress this year. It's not "Democrat."

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:02 PM

Like the Last Two Years, You Mean?

My goal this year is to see strong gains by Democrats in the House and the Senate...and to see a divided government with an opposition party president in the White House so that the congress and the chief executive spend the next four years moderating each other by being at each others throats. In short, I'm for splitting the vote.

-- Roman Berry

Good plan, because as we've seen, the Dems have put up a vigorous opposition to the Bush agenda since taking back control of Congress, so there's NO QUESTION they'd stand up to McCain.

Or would you like to choose what's behind Door Number 2?

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:03 PM

A technical comment

Rebecca, the audio in your clip was just awful. Your microphone was too onmidirectional and it was too far away from you. It picked up the hollow "sea shell" sound that comes from reflective (brick) surroundings.

But to top that off, you overlayed that jazzy, finger-snapping tune. Just to make your words all the less comprehensible.

Please get a decent audio tech, a real microphone, and some acoustical panels before doing another recording. And if you want to include the jazz tune, do it as an intro which fades to zero when you start talking and then fades back in when you are done. Don't have it compete with your message.

Thanks...Greg

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