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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:00 AM

Can I get this abstinence message in a medium?

Kmart sells "True Love Waits" sweatpants but denies trying to promote the cause.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 09:58 AM

Millions of years of evolution...

will insure that young people will continue to have sex no matter what wacky twisted bullcrap they are fed by old geezers and perverts...

GOP=Gay Old Pedophiles

(my apologies to the majority of gay folks who decent hard-working people who are not republicans)

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 09:59 AM

maybe they're just Radiohead fans

On the other hand, having the title of a song about desperation and fear of abandonment isn't exactly a great message have across your ass either.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:03 AM

meh...

I think schools should promote more than just abstinence, including educating kids about sex in "Sex Education" class!

That said, I don't see why Kmart feels the need to deny that they are promoting abstinence, it seems like a nice idea to me. Maybe you expect them to also sell pants with "I use condoms!" printed on the butt?

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:08 AM

Profit motive

Kmart is selling these clothes because there is a market for them, hence a profit motive. If there were a significant market for little girls' clothes that said "I use condoms", I'm sure they'd sell those too.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:11 AM

any one see the movie Teeth?

Any time I see chastity wear I think of the movie and laugh all day long

http://teethmovie.com/film.html

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:12 AM

I hate pants with messages across the ass.

It's so sexualizing. They force one to scan that person's ass.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:12 AM

For the Love of God

Would you rather teenage girls wear a shirt that says, I'm a ho fo' sho', or Bitch?

There is a segment of the population, of the teenage population, who beleive in abstinence. Good for them. If they want to wear pairs of pants with the words True love waits on their asses, I think they should go right ahead. Just like those girls (and boys) who wear shirts and pants with sexually expicity or demeaning or insulting slogans. Or heck, like my favorite T shirt in High School, Trips are for Kids (God I loved that shirt!) with the rabbit on it looking like he'd just dropped a shit load of acid. I wonder if they still sell those shirts on Telegraph...

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:13 AM

pick your battles

while i find the K-mart product described a bit creepy, there is a difference between promoting (or advertising) abstinence vs. abstinence only.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:14 AM

I don't know

I support sex education, and I think it's fine for young adults to have sex when they are ready, but I don't have a problem with Kmart selling these pants. Some teenagers believe in waiting, and it's fine with me if the want to advertise that on their pants. I don't share this view, but I don't think it should be censored and banned from stores. What is really important is making sure that schools are not just teaching abstinence.

Besides, while waiting for marriage seems very old fashioned these days, it might be nice for young teenagers to wait until they are a little older, emotionally mature, and responsible with protection. Maybe the slogan should be "true love waits... for college."

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:24 AM

Dammit, my Radiohead reference has been taken away

Creepy, but hardly unprecedented. Forever 21 has John 3:16 printed on their shopping bags.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:34 AM

MC Hammer should do a line of pants

That have "Can't Touch This" scrawled across the arse.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:39 AM

T & A

Apparently we are in an age right now where young girls (primarily) are ready to wear almost any message on their asses, anything from "Juicy" to "True Love Waits" will do. I am sure that most girls who wear this kind of nonsense on their asses really don't have much of an idea if any of what Love is, and in fact they don't really have much of an idea about anything at all. All that matters is that wearing any message on ones ass is guaranteed to garner attention, and isn't attention mainly what girls and woman of almost all ages are looking for? We see the same phenomenon with girls who wear shirts with all manor of suggestive if not outright declarative words across the chest (breasts that is). Again, just a ladies way of saying you (I) simply must notice her breasts, anything else would be sacrileges.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:43 AM

Better place for abstinence

An abstinence message silk-screened across a young woman's butt is more appropriate, less hypocritical, and not nearly as harmful as an abstinence message that takes the place of meaningful sex education.

If K-mart harboring the message is the price for evicting it from public education, I'm ready to pay.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:43 AM

What is the problem?

This has nothing at all to do with abstinence only education at school for several reasons the biggest being no one is required to buy these while school is mandatory. I am having difficulty on what BS problem with this is in all honesty.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:55 AM

competes with school logos.....

I wonder how pissed off schools are when they see 'abstinence' instead of 'Hornets' or 'Panthers'....

I always steer clear of this kind of clothing....it wreaks of 'I didn't make enough of a statement with my 'save a horse, ride a cowboy' tee...so I'll finish it with...'I'm joking, I'm really prude'....

And teaparty...."teeth" was an awesome movie....it was funny when the dog ate her asshole of a step brother's bitten off wang after it fell out of her onto the floor...

I rolled.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:02 AM

The copy has been changed.

It now reads, "These athletic pants boldly proclaim just where she stands by pointing out that 'True Love Waits.'"

Maybe the message being on the ass means true love waits for anal sex, but vaginal sex is okay right now? Or vice versa? Anyway, it's still better than that damn "Juicy" ass-logo. That always brought bile into my throat.

@teaparty420: "Teeth" is exactly the first thing I thought of when I saw this item. Just as ugly as the abstinence clothing in that movie, too. Maybe that's part of the point. Why broadcast abstinence with clothing that's attractive? Now if only we could push the idea that abstinence clothing actually indicates the wearer has vagina dentata...

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:09 AM

Orwell

Everybody thinks of 1984 as the book about government surveilance, but there's a healthy dose of other commentary in there. For one, the way the government gives happy, patriotic names to sinister institutions ("Ministry of Love," "Ministry of Truth," "Patriot Act," "Help America Vote Act," etc.)

And for another, the promotion of abstinence combined with highly sexualized clothing. Remember when the main character was checking out the young woman with the tight pants and the abstinence sash across her waist? (It's during that "hate" program thing, and he fantasizes about raping her. Later on she turns out to be hip to the opposition movement, and they get together before they both get caught.)

Anyway, that's what I thought of here. But of course, I've had 1984 on the brain lately.

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