Letters to the Editor
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Walter Map
I could have written your response practically word for word. I am just glad to see you seem to have come to the same conclusions INDEPENDENT of me as I am often accused of being the only person on the planet who thinks and sees things the way I do.
I hope to see more of your insights on Salon in the coming months.
The age of freedom for men is just beginning, may we men build out the foundation for true respect and understanding for both sexes, (one based in REALITY, not in self-serving anti-male feminist propaganda), for men having the same range of freedoms women now enjoy, and for women finally being pinned down to some accountability and responsibility beyond popping out infants at whim.
(yeah, you'll find I can get harsh..)
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brightstar65
All MEN?
Nice to see that some people aren't fooled.
Check this out:
http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/doclove4.html
Don't thank me. Thank Tom Hodges.
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Yeah, so true
Blaming men for everything is a lot easier and more profitable for Oprah and Dr. Phil types than it is to really understand the social and sexual dynamics of such situations. And you'll notice a lot of the male posters here have bought into it.
These guys are adult infants. Gen after gen, their ancestors have never had the need to lift their snouts above the sex feeding trough to the point that it has distorted their mental processes so that they are incapable of assuming a stance that is self respecting.
Better for them, in their mninds, to maintain that maw at the trough rather than to demand that women actually act accountable.
It is a deeply disrespectful position towards women if only from the standpoint that someone like these clowns cannot become a trusted force for good, cannot defend or protect or nurture women. You will notice, if you look at these guys individually, that many of them have horrid personalities, are extremely unaccountable, or have destructive habits. Many put women down, or walk away, or play around, or abuse women.
But women love it, because it feeds their ego, and because they prefer to have all the control and not have to deal with the messiness of having two people with interests, adult male/ adult female, who then need to negotiate terms of their affection.
In this way, women choosing these clowns, you can see how it can be placed onto women that they largely determine the tenor of the society. If it is filled with male infants, this is quite a different situation from a society of responsible guys who will run the society in such a way that it is successful, feeding everyone, protecting them, providing opportunities, providing HOPE, etc.
This is why there has NEVER been a matriarchy in the sense of a nation or culture, men defeat it by sheer dint of being more industrious. They go and clobber the male infant societies on the other side of the mountain range.
I am not saying there are no matriarchies, matriarchies manifest themselves in the culture and in the home. Women on average have more power than do men on average, hence most men feel powerless in their lives in relation to their women.
OK, off the soapbox, but a good run nonetheless.
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Let me amend this fascinating post I just made.
But women love it, because it feeds their ego, and because they prefer to have all the control and not have to deal with the messiness of having two people with interests, adult male/ adult female, who then need to negotiate terms of their affection.
American women seem to have two settings (they think they have two settings):
1. They are active, seeking out douchebas, like the male infants I posit.
2. They are passive, glomming onto Mr. Moneybags, then acting weak and not asserting themselves and being resentful towards the guy for it.
In many American women's minds, and one reason I finally decided to give up on American women, there is no setting where women take on and relish the back and forth that a true, mutually respectful relationship requires.
Too few women WANT equals, though they claim it all the time, preferring to either slither away from potential conflict or serious discussion or else to dictate the terms of the situation, using sex as the cudgel.
Maybe it is not just American women but, especially on Salon, it seems to be the only two models of interaction they carry in their heads, if only because it is EASIER to dismiss than to engage the other.
Of course feminism fed this beast, by filling society with a bunch of inaccurate hate speech concepts and terms that denigrate men to the point that women feel they do not HAVE to or need to engage men. You see it on here everyday in the dismissive, flippant, immature, snarky comments they make towards guys like you and me who actually attempt to map out the complex interactions between the sexes (but meanwhile, THEY WANT RESPECT, buwaahahahahaa !!!).
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@walter and BS65
God, it's scary when two such soulmates collide! Get a room already. Didja know that you two can now get married in Massachusetts?
Walt: that's the second time I've counted that you have quoted almost the entire lyrics to Bette Midler's The Rose (from the movie of the same name). It would be nice if you credited your "poetry" lest people think you are making this stuff up. Most of who are over 14 years of age base our moral and ethical behavior on something more than song lyrics.
BTW: Two-timing FOUR different lonely women is not exactly better than doing it to two or three. But I guess you and your giant stud ego can't resist letting us all know that you are "getting some". Also: just a hint, but even a woman who is a neurosurgeon or a judge or a senator can be lonely and vulnerable, especially if she's over 45 and (wrongly) thinks her options for love and sex are so limited that she has to "man share".
I absolutely guarantee you that each of these women hopes you will choose her over the others, and is only putting up with your greedy and selfish behavior because of low self-esteem. That is, if any of it's true and not just bragging, which I think is a real possiblity. According to the interest and Salon letters columns, practically every troll-boy is a major hearthrob and PUA, and has women hanging onto him just begging for more of his studly hottness.
Which brings me to Brightstar (and you): what planet did you guys evolve on that you think WOMEN call all the shots and determine every hookup and relationship? Just so you know, in the eyes of just about every woman who is not a super-model, WE FEEL that YOU GUYS determine who you are (and are not) attracted to, and that WE have almost no say in the matter.
Unfortunately, all your bitterness and woman-hating (yes, Walt, a guy who has to screw 4 women at one time almost certainly hates all women, or is still working some BIG issues over his wife's death, or more likely both) seems directed at some cute high school cheerleader who wouldn't give you the time of day, and instead dated the captain of the football team....and unbelievably, 30 years later, you losers are still trying to "get even" with all of womankind for your "humiliation".
This is, and always has been, solely about your bitter loserdom, and how you can lash out as an adult, at adult women (most of whom never did anything to you and don't even know you exist) who have NOT rejected you, or who even desire you -- but you are still getting back at the cute cheerleader. You will have your revenge! whether it's name calling or demeaning older women or dating 4 women and playing them off against each other.
Unfortunately, what you don't get is how little we really care about you, because the world is filled with plenty of decent, kind, rational guys who actually love and respect women.
So sing your song lyrics -- though it might be nice, Walt, if you listened to something written since 1979 -- and plan your total domination of the world, Brightstar, and enjoy your paranoid little women-hating fantasies. It's all good, isn't it?