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Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:00 AM

Lust in translation

A new study says "faulty male introspection" is to blame for misread sexual signals.

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Monday, April 28, 2008 04:58 PM

Doubt anyone's still readin, so I can be honest...

I specifically recall being "taught" at some college sensitivity thing or consciousness-raising or something that (and I quote the point that was driven home):

"All men, in the right circumstances, can rape."

Well, I thought to myself, not much point in trying to figure out who the "bad guys" are if that's the point of this meeting.

But what's with the word "can"?

I read a lot. I know a little bit about history and the general human condition. Seems to me that over the course of a human being's life, they might end up doing all kinds of things. Some of those things are the sort of things that get applauded, and others get prosecuted. But one way or the other--people often find themselves in the damnedest situations, doing things they never dreamed of doing.

Ayep. Folks'll always keep you guessing.

So even when it comes all to it, a "normal" person might do something "abnormal." Best for everyone to be aware of this, and most significantly, to seek an understanding of their own worst impulses.

You'll have them forever, whether you ever want to understand them or not. You can be a better person by understanding your own horrors.

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:53 PM

DurianJoe

It's probably best if young women and young men are taught the social graces of romance and sex, preferably by their parents, but if need be by the schools. Of course, we'll have to wait until the sex-phobic GOP is finally vanquished, but that's a topic for another toxic Broadsheet thread.

Exactly so.

My daughters were very interested and took to heart the talks my wife had with them at an early age, and later my girlfriends. They had their disappointments, of course, but they married very nice young men - too young I think - and I am proud to call them my sons.

My son was a different story and had to learn the hard way, but young men tend to be rash, as you know. After getting crushed a couple of times he learned to listen to dear old dad, and hopefully he'll be able to teach his own two boys when they become young men.

It was crucial that we were at least open about it.

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:42 PM

@Grungie

314 posts has to be some kind of record. Did the editors forget to close this thread?>/i>

Are you kidding? They're loving this!

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:40 PM

It's not just men vs. women. It's also about youth vs. age

It's your signal to pick up your hat and smile and politely say goodnight. And you're gonna be classy about it. Everybody's happy, nobody gets hurt. No one dame means that much to you at that stage.

Our Leisure World Lothario touches upon an important point. Older men -- let's say 30 and up -- are less beholden to their dicks than 20 somethings and even worse, teens. A young man who is making out with a young woman is lucky if his head doesn't explode from the lust (and I'm talking about the one on his neck). It's takes a lot more effort on a woman's part to get a young man to power down and stop than it does an older man, and so she needs to be direct, but hopefully in a nice way. Please note, I'm not talking about rapists, either young or old. That's another topic.

Conversely, older men aren't as desperate to get laid; even if it's been awhile, older men have better self-control. And it's not just in matters sexual;. For example, by the time a hoodlum reaches his late 20's or early 30's, he's a lot less dangerous than he was as an impulsive teenager. In general, older men have what it takes to walk away from a woman who wants to stop without making a big fuss about it.

So as the saying goes, know your audience. It's probably best if young women and young men are taught the social graces of romance and sex, preferably by their parents, but if need be by the schools. Of course, we'll have to wait until the sex-phobic GOP is finally vanquished, but that's a topic for another toxic Broadsheet thread.

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:25 PM

AKA Smith

You should know that walter is a certified True Believer in Doc Love's The System using specific pick up techniques for catching women.

Another obvious lie.

Here's the facts:

Doc Love differs from the "pickup artists" of the seduction community in that his focus is on teaching men to have happy long-term relationships rather than to seduce women for one-night stands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Love

Doesn't it bother you in the least that you compulsively lie in order to viciously denigrate men?

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:20 PM

AKA Smith

The advice there is so off target where women are concerned that it would almost be hillarious if it weren't so sad.

You're just annoyed because Tom Hodges has you figured out.

You said you were leaving. Apparently you lied.

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:18 PM

LeCastor

I completely agree with your last post about rapists not having a type or a way of acting.

Some are just guys who took up the invitation to make love to a woman.

Except afterwards 'she changed her mind.' Possibly just because she wanted to have revenge on a man - any man - because some other man dumped her for being a man-hating shrew.

Does your 'boyfriend' ever worry about that? You do seem the type.

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:14 PM

LeCastor

When did you first learn that you enjoyed defaming and viciously denigrating men?

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:14 PM

@ Allie

See what I mean?

Do go to that like I gave for Doc Love at the askmen site. The advice there is so off target where women are concerned that it would almost be hillarious if it weren't so sad.

And don't forget to wash your hands. ;)

Monday, April 28, 2008 04:13 PM

@ Allie

You're right.

I completely agree with your last post about rapists not having a type or a way of acting.

I think there is something to be said for the idea that in the situation of saying no to sex, women seek to be gentle and non-direct in order to avoid confrontation, aggravation, and possible rape. By stirring empathy and good feeling, they save themselves from possible violence. It might have an evolutionary purpose, this non-direct approach.

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